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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2010, 05:26:09 AM »
I'd be happy if they removed that oft-maligned osiris B variant and changed it to one with an lbx10, masc and a couple of SPLs for backup.

 !IT would be a baby SCat B :)



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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2010, 03:41:11 PM »
I'd be happy if they removed that oft-maligned osiris B variant and changed it to one with an lbx10, masc and a couple of SPLs for backup.

 !IT would be a baby SCat B :)

Except it would blow up if someone shoots a small laser back at you.  Frickin' Osirises... does anyone actually use them on purpose?  A harasser can probably kill one in 2-3 alphas.

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2010, 05:25:01 PM »
I have nice success with the Osiris Prime early to mid game.
I just hope the devs don't take that as, "The Osiris is fine as it is."

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2010, 05:27:43 PM »
I have nice success with the Osiris Prime early to mid game.
I just hope the devs don't take that as, "The Osiris is fine as it is."

I use the Owens B early game. Funny thing about the Osiris is that I always target one if I see it because I know they're easy kills, then I gtfo with Owens supermasc. LBX might make them more dangerous to take on, which could be a good thing.

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2010, 05:32:47 PM »
With practice you can leg an Owens B and barely take any damage with the Osiris Prime or C, you have better torso turning and you can tap MASC to dodge the ssrms. I actually prefer the srm over the ssrm at the moment because the ssrm does that silly fanning out thing that makes too many missiles miss and I can actually aim at specific components like the legs with the srm.
Two biggest reasons why Osirises are easy kills are many people don't pilot them right, and that most people take the Osiris B, which is a death trap. Try to catch Profane in his Osiris A and you will see how annoying they are to catch.
I can be pretty annoying too, but in a quite different way. :P

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2010, 09:44:10 PM »
With practice you can leg an Owens B and barely take any damage with the Osiris Prime or C, you have better torso turning and you can tap MASC to dodge the ssrms. I actually prefer the srm over the ssrm at the moment because the ssrm does that silly fanning out thing that makes too many missiles miss and I can actually aim at specific components like the legs with the srm.
Two biggest reasons why Osirises are easy kills are many people don't pilot them right, and that most people take the Osiris B, which is a death trap. Try to catch Profane in his Osiris A and you will see how annoying they are to catch.
I can be pretty annoying too, but in a quite different way. :P

Lol challenge me on FC and I'll use an Owens B you use ANY Osiris.  Why would an Osiris be hard to catch for a mech that's faster and has BAP?  Osiris' are really really weak right now, I think of them just as I do harassers, free money for whoever plows them over first. 

Sure skill can make any mech good.  But I'm not the best player out there, and I'd take ANYONE on in an Osiris vs Owens match and feel very confidant in coming out ahead.

Err back on topic, I definitely think an LBX20 would make an Osiris more annoying I guess, but it's still too papery to be afeared of.

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #81 on: August 26, 2010, 10:49:35 PM »
Oh I don't deny that the Owens is definitely a better mech, but the SSRMs are easy to dodge when moving laterally to the target, the speed difference is only a large factor in chasing. The Owens B has limited torso twist so is at a disadvantage in a circle of death and the few SSRMs that do connect can easily be spread all around the Osiris while the lasers and SRMs can be aimed, all one has to do is leg the Owens and the battle is instantly over, where as the SSRMs do not home in on the legs of the Osiris so you have to core it. Its the nature of the SSRMs at the moment that are the problem there.
I didn't say it was easy but it is possible to force the Owens B into a disadvantage.
The hardest part is hitting the legs enough time to leg it before it runs away to its buddies, as the piss poor damage of the lasers complicates things and it takes alot of practice to hit legs with SRMS.

Here is what needs to happen: Bring the armor on the Raven down and the Osiris armor up and have them meet in the middle, or a bit above that, neither should have as much armor as the Owens does. Next the Osiris Prime needs its full 5 Medium Lasers, from the heat performance I can tell you it will handle it fine with its current heatsink set up. If we want to try the canon 5 ERMBL we will have to try it with DHS, if it still runs too hot to use then stick with MBL. 

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2010, 02:10:45 AM »
Uller's are definitely the thinnest armored light mechs. Owen's are much better armored.

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2010, 04:57:40 AM »
When was the last time you shot at an osiris?
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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2010, 05:23:00 AM »
Uller's are definitely the thinnest armored light mechs. Owen's are much better armored.

 Yes, and with it's speed, Owens doesn't need that much armor. I'd like to see it's armor slightly reduced, while Kit Fox's armor buffed a little.



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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2010, 05:54:25 AM »
Actually the Owens is five tons heavier and has 7 tons of armor, the Uller has 4 tons of Clan FF armor that brings it to 4.8 tons equivalent protection. So the Owens should be faster and tougher than the kitfox, it outclasses the kitfox really and is a much newer design. I think its good the way it is. The Cougar is a match for the Owens not the kitfox.

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #86 on: August 27, 2010, 09:29:07 AM »
Well, the Uller is not a scout mech, it's a hunter killer. The Owens is designed to scout, spot, and get away. It may have ~3 tons more armor than the Uller, but the Uller is mounting 15 tons of weapons compared to the Owens' 11 tons of weapons.

Uller has 35% more weapons (and they're clan weapons)
Owens has 40% more armor
Owens has 33% more speed and jump jets

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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #88 on: August 27, 2010, 01:16:23 PM »
Owens ... jump jets
what?

He's thinking about the Jenner I believe Haarp.

It's a mix up I make too....the Owens is just a tarted up version of the old Jenner after all, it's almost the same 'mech.


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Re: Suggestion for LB-X Autocannons
« Reply #89 on: August 27, 2010, 06:49:17 PM »
So basically people are suggesting slug ammunition for the LBX? I don't see it being any different than an autocannon at that point.