Heat "owner" to award heat damage points

[Threesan]

Presently (unless something snuck in when I wasn't looking), I don't think anyone is awarded (or punished) for damage done by critical heat levels. If you force destruction of a Novacat with several Inferno charges, for example, your reward (or punishment! D: ) is very little.

Proposal: As heat is inflicted, keep track of who inflicted the heat. As vehicle cools, subtract even amounts of heat from all owners for the vehicle.

Example, Mech in combat:
354 heat points due to pilot Bob using equipment (MASC, JJ, weapons)
276 heat points due to lava (perhaps owner is environment, or perhaps owner is pilot)
471 heat points due to Alice hitting with heat weapons (Inferno, Flamer, PPC, Firebomb)
75 heat points due to Charles incidental friendly fire with heat weapons

Mech cooling tick, loses 12 points of heat:
354 - 3 = 351 from pilot Bob
276 - 3 = 273 from lava
471 - 3 = 468 from Alice
75 - 3 = 72 from Charles

Total temperature: 1164, plus say 30 from environment = 1194
Heat damage inflicted on Mech, based on 194 critical heats. (Say, 100 damage total in the tick.)

Bob is penalized for 351/1194=29% of the damage
Lava claims 273/1194=23% of the damage
Alice is rewarded for 468/1194=39% of the damage
Charles is penalized for 72/1194=6% of the damage

Probably hostile heat needs to be given priority. Hostile heat = 468, accounting for all heat damage.
Alice is awarded 100 damage score (though if she had help from her own teammates, she would need to share points, based on proportion of hostile heat each inflicted). (Rewards)
Second priority, if there is heat remaining: environmental (score ignored? or reduced pilot penalty?).
Third priority, if there is heat remaining: friendly/pilot (penalties).

Perhaps the score penalties happen at a reduced rate, e.g., Lava penalizes pilot but only at 1/5th damage; pilot heat penalizes pilot but only at half damage; friendly fire penalizes perhaps at 80% (50%, 100%, whatever). (If Mech self-damage penalties are to be kept in line with Aero crashing penalties, which can come down pretty hard on the pilot.)

[-SM-SUCKER]

I like this very much.

Didn't realise that flamers need their reward too, other than heating up the Novas.

[Sesambrot]

Actually a good idea, but I don't like the idea to penalize the pilot for using his weapons and equipment.
Damaging his own mech is enough penalty IMO

having a heat reward however would be nice, especially if one manages to core/shut down an enemy mech by overheating it.
Currently a heat death is counted as sucide.

[TheDrgnRbrn]

While this makes sense, the actual chances of you causing someone to overheat and die are fairly slim. You might do it once a night if you are dedicated with heat weapons, but for most folks its not going to happen that often.

Two real problems

A) Tracking heat points by player. Its a lot of math to keep track of all the time. IIRC, they dont even track this for mech damage. So performance is an issue

B) Boating. Wouldn't this encourage someone to run around with all flamers? Yes, this is a silly problem, but just thought I would point it out.

While yes, I would like to see extra points awarded for shutting down mechs and such, its not something that happens often enough to be worth the reward. Normally, a mech is dead by the time it overheats.

[-SM-SUCKER]

So applying this logic to other weapons it should not be rewarded to hit with small lasers either. The amount of times you kill somebody with a small laser is low...

But you still contribute to the overall damage done to a mech.
By adding heat points you do contribute, thus a reward would be appropriate.

[dsi1]

B) Boating. Wouldn't this encourage someone to run around with all flamers? Yes, this is a silly problem, but just thought I would point it out.

I'd rather see someone in a flame boat than any other sort of boat. (unless it was a real boat, that would be cool)

[xInVicTuSx]

No you don't you DO NOT want to see an Owens with x6 flamers and MASC in this game with current flamer overheating potential.

[TheDrgnRbrn]

So applying this logic to other weapons it should not be rewarded to hit with small lasers either. The amount of times you kill somebody with a small laser is low...

But you still contribute to the overall damage done to a mech.
By adding heat points you do contribute, thus a reward would be appropriate.

However, as I pointed out, you don't get points for contributing damage to a mech, you get points for damaging and killing a mech. It doesnt matter how much damage you 'contribute'; if someone else kills it, they get the cash.

I would be all for this if heat was meaner than it is right now. Till then, its not really gonna add much.

[HAARP]

No you don't you DO NOT want to see an Owens with x6 flamers and MASC in this game with current flamer overheating potential.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why flamers create heat in CBT for the firing mech. It worked until double heatsinks were introduced :/

[-SM-SUCKER]

Oh I might see some hell for this bump.
I noticed this is not in the game. As I have been fighting in the AC20 Hollander with 4xflamers I managed to overheat several enemies. But they always suicided. No kill for me.

[Ressk [CSF]]

Oh I might see some hell for this bump.
I noticed this is not in the game. As I have been fighting in the AC20 Hollander with 4xflamers I managed to overheat several enemies. But they always suicided. No kill for me.

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i find it funny that it suicides people. its a bigger hit to them than you not getting a kill would be.

[TAX_MAN!]

Now call me crazy, but do flamers generate heat to the firing player MORE SO if they're hitting another player?

I was playing around in the flame harasser earlier today and this definitely seemed to be the case.