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Machine Guns?
« on: August 30, 2010, 09:45:34 AM »
What are Machine guns for?

I started playing the mod after 3.2, and I can't find a use for them.
They seem to be useless against BA, both when I use them, and when my enemies do, and do little damage to mechs and other vehicles.
They do seem to have long range (i was firing at a VTOL that was far out of the MG's reticule range, but puffs of smoke were appearing), but seem useless besides that.

Am I not using them properly?
Are they really just that bad?
What are they for?
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 09:52:46 AM »
Mguns used to do a tiny bit of damage to armor but they don't anymore, they also used to be great against BA and good against Areo.
None of that is so anymore. Though I will say, if you lead and compensate for a tiny bit of bullet drop(aim for head) you can spray and kill BA at a distance even on the move, you just have to be willing to keep it on them and not let go of the trigger, don't worry about running out of ammo or overheating. Dual Mguns aren't bad at all for the weight, the other day I was roflstomping Ba after Ba on marshes with the dual Mguns on the Uziel.
I had to change my strategy from the old versions where I would fire in small bursts and conserve ammo, now its just spray and pray.
The damage vs Areo is nonexistent, and vs Vtol is hardly noticeable but if you keep it on long enough you can finish off a heavily damaged vtol or at least make him panic.
Thing about them vs BA is they don't work well when BA are close, you have to get them at range and spray, be patient.

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 09:57:40 AM »
The are good agaist BA. But i prefer more other ammo or heatsinks.
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 09:59:09 AM »
They used to damage armor and I liked to use them while my lasers and PPCs were recharging. Now they are pretty much useless with lasers being better against BAs and damage against aircraft pitiful :/

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 03:02:48 PM »
Point blank, a machine gun will kill an aerospace faster than an AC2

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 03:30:09 PM »
Point blank, a machine gun will kill an aerospace faster than an AC2

Combine this with a very very very good range they have a use.
Require some good aiming and target leading to be used properly against air of course... but that is to be expected.

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 04:59:44 PM »
Machine guns are the fastest way I can kill a BA at any range. Use zoom mode and it's a couple of seconds at close range. I prefer to use srms or mrms but that gets tricky when you are trying to save your mech friend who is being molested.

They are fine for aeros - they don't overheat, right? AC2, AC5 and RAC rounds all overheat.

Take the catapult with mrm 40's and machine guns and go BA hunting.
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 05:25:38 PM »
I'd still rather see MGs do a very small amount of damage to mechs. But at least when they do 0 damage I can fire at at BA harassing a friendly without worrying about hitting the friendly.

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 05:30:02 PM »
I'd still rather see MGs do a very small amount of damage to mechs. But at least when they do 0 damage I can fire at at BA harassing a friendly without worrying about hitting the friendly.
You still lose cash for hitting the friendly though.

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 05:31:53 PM »
I'd still rather see MGs do a very small amount of damage to mechs. But at least when they do 0 damage I can fire at at BA harassing a friendly without worrying about hitting the friendly.
You still lose cash for hitting the friendly though.

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 05:57:41 PM »
I always shot my MGs at aeros, but did not think they do a lot of damage... But for hunting BAs they are ok.

But I am disappointed to hear they do zero damage on Mechs. I mean I used them more as a distraction, aiming for the head to obscure their vision, but I was hoping for at least a bit of damage.
Please, let my machine gun at least peel some millimeters off of that armor!

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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 08:12:04 PM »
I fired at King Leer's hawkmoth for a full ten seconds a while ago, and he didn't even seem to notice, (was just hovering there, harrasing some missleboats) and continued doing what he was doing. The whole time, he wasn't moving, and puffs of smoke were appearing by his VTOL.
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 08:31:44 PM »
MG will do minimal damage to aerospace and (usually) no damage to 'Mechs or heavy vehicles.
 
However, let's qualify expectations here by asking: "what do you really expected out of a 0.5 ton weapon"?
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 08:33:43 PM »
when used in a pair to do least as much damage as a small laser
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Re: Machine Guns?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 09:27:02 PM »
MG will do minimal damage to aerospace and (usually) no damage to 'Mechs or heavy vehicles.
 
However, let's qualify expectations here by asking: "what do you really expected out of a 0.5 ton weapon"?
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No, not really.
I was just wondering if they were good against anything in the game, or if they were put in because that's what the mechs had in BTU
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