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Upgrades a' comin'!
« on: November 01, 2010, 08:40:07 AM »
So guys...

After a long saga of trying to deal with a local computer shop guy for four months, having my hundred dollar deposit elusively withheld for around two months before I managed to get it back and generally having suffered bitterly at the hands of technology in general, I sucked up the courage once again and bought myself a HD 5770 online.  And guess what?  IT'S CHEAPER!!

But basically, what kinda performance should I be able to suck out of this baby?

What it's replacing is a 9400gt, so I don't really need a comparison :P  The rest of the system consists of an E7400 Core 2 Duo @ 2.8ghz and 4gb RAM.  What should I be able to pull in MWLL/Crysis nowadays? (instead of 8-12 fps on low...?)  Oh yes, I currently play at a 1680x1050 resolution but an Alienware Optx 23" LCD won't be far behind this upgrade, so it will soon be 1920x1080.

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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »
I'd think at least 25-30 fps on medium, or level 2/3 if you use CCC. Maybe more.


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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 12:19:17 PM »
I think you should've waited a little bit longer, personal i'm waiting for the next x2 Geforce support card things, pretty much 2 cards smashed in too one, i had a 9800gtx2, which was grand. Except the fact it can't run the latest DX 11 and such. =\

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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 01:37:55 PM »
i know a couple people with 5770's and from everything i hear and benches i see they are very good cards assuming u aren't bottlenecking anywhere. they are suppose to be just about on par with a 4870, which are great cards also, i had one for a good long while till i upgraded to a 5870. u should be pleasently suprized with the nice jump in fps..... tho, if you are running with ddr2 ram you might not get all of it's power- once i moved from ddr2 1066 to a new mb and ddr3 1600 ram i got a massive jump in performance from my 4870


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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 08:06:07 AM »
Nice, thanks for the insights!!

@Ashes: didn't know about that... oh well, these things got knocked down a bit by the release of the new ATI cards, so thought "what the heck?"

As to what RAM I'm running... not sure, pretty sure it's ddr2 though...
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 07:26:13 PM »
I question: what the difference between:
Intel core 2 duo 2.80 GHz
and
Intel Pentium D 2x2.80 GHz
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 11:01:48 PM »
I question: what the difference between:
Intel core 2 duo 2.80 GHz
and
Intel Pentium D 2x2.80 GHz

No idea personally! They always confused me... all I know is I have two CPUs at 2.8ghz  ???
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 11:23:05 PM »
Core 2 Duo E7400 (2.8Ghz)
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36500

Pentium D 820 (2.8Ghz)
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27512

Clock Speed is the same, however some big differences (aside from the architecture difference) are,
Cache
FSB
45nm vs 90nm
TDP

The results of all this are that the E7400 is a better processor, and will outperform the Pentium D.
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 12:54:08 AM »
Yah, pure clock is useless for measuring the processing power . .
Basically, cache is king, all high performance CPU's have 8+Megs of Cache.
12 being the most i know of with certain high value CPU's.
Afterwards, there's the form-factor, basically the structure width. The size.
Newer ones are made in less nanometers, so they are smaller while doing the same work.
At the same time, this means they eat less electricity. And thus release less heat to the surrounding system. Lower TDP.
This, again, in effect, means, that, with a good cooler, you can overclock the cpu farther because it was colder to begin with.
Oh, and the smaller size makes them cheaper to produce and thus cheaper to buy too . .
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 01:02:24 AM »
i would suspect you get a hell of alot more than 25 fps.
 I have a 4830?? it was like 100bucks 15b months ago and on fraps I run pretty damn smooth unless its clearcut.
avg around 40fps id say.

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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 05:21:12 AM »
i would suspect you get a hell of alot more than 25 fps.
 I have a 4830?? it was like 100bucks 15b months ago and on fraps I run pretty damn smooth unless its clearcut.
avg around 40fps id say.

Resolution can/does have a huge impact on fps.  1680x1050 is on the slightly higher side compared to some sizes, and as such comes with a performance penalty.  In the 4830 was actually targeted when it first came out to compete against the 9600 and 9800 from Nvidia, as such it has similar performance to these cards.  The 9400gt when first released had an initial price of ~$70-75 as it was Nvidia's new low budget card, putting it below the cost of ATI's faster 4830.

EDIT: As an update, the initial cost for the 4830 I found to be around $130-150 from my research.  Also, both these cards were released within a few months of each other.
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 10:23:06 AM »
I'm liking the sound of all of this :D

Also, installed a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate today, upgrading from XP Home, although I now find that my Microsoft Office install disc can't be validated, even though it was for this PC  :-\
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 12:06:02 PM »
Oh yes, I currently play at a 1680x1050 resolution but an Alienware Optx 23" LCD won't be far behind this upgrade, so it will soon be 1920x1080.
Why upgrade? You could have more frames per s. or higher GFX settings, with your "old" monitor.
I can play smoothly on high with my 8800GT because I run 1280x1024.

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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 03:29:57 PM »
Why upgrade? You could have more frames per s. or higher GFX settings, with your "old" monitor.
I can play smoothly on high with my 8800GT because I run 1280x1024.

Higher resolutions tend to look better due to more pixels on the screen at a time, and it also gives you more desktop space when you are in Windows.  If necessary for performance reasons you can always run the game at a lower resolution than your monitor can handle.
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Re: Upgrades a' comin'!
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 03:40:59 PM »
^ this, my monitor is native 1680x 1050 but i run MWLL at 1440 x 9000 on my 8800GT