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Re: Assaults, What do you like?
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2010, 07:16:49 PM »
I used to use a joystick for MW3 and while it's' nice from a lore perspective... it's like saying an Xbox controller is just as good as a mouse for multiplayer FPS games.

The aimy-shooty bit of MWLL is just basic FPS, really. A joystick means longer movements of the entire arm. I suppose where a joystick pays off though is in the weapon department. My mouse has a ton of buttons on it but it's weird / difficult to use some of them with precision. In general though I imagine using a joystick to aim being akin to driving a car where both your front wheels have their own steering wheels. With enough practice you could make it drivable, but it's pointless practice because the best you can hope for is a car that operates exactly like the single-wheeled type.

However, the joystick for movement sounds interesting... though maybe awkward using my left hand on a right-handed joystick. I thought about using my throttle but it'd be impossible to turn with.

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Re: Assaults, What do you like?
« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2010, 10:13:23 PM »
Gotta agree, if it works for you then great, but it's hardly easier than the old M+KB combo.

I tried hooking up my joystick and setting it up so the pitch action proportionally varies throttle with centre = stopped (or close enough), -ve pitch = reverse throttle, +ve pitch = forward throttle.

The roll axis controlled direction. It worked alright, you certainly had nice control over the mechs movement, but it could all get a bit strenous on the arm, especially since you had to push the stick fully forward for full throttle.

I also had lots of trouble aiming with the mouse, because the mechs motion wasn't as steady as with the keyboard.

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Re: Assaults, What do you like?
« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2010, 11:46:03 PM »
I'm trying the mouse+stick and so far I.. really like it! I had to draw up my own map because I can't remember what the fapp I'm doing with it right now.

It's awkward but at least it has a real payoff unlike using a stick for torso/aim - analog throttle and steering is a lot smoother and lets me make a lot more changes in a fight. So far it's negatively affecting me as I'm not used to it but with practice it'll get better.

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Throttle is analog and needs to be held in place. This could be tiresome but my stick is very lightweight (CH Fighterstick). It makes changing speeds much easier. Steering is analog as well.

All my weapon fire scripts are set up to automatically select target under reticule. Not so useful all the time, but helpful in a closer fight where mechs can pop in and out of radar range frequently.

My palm rests over the MASC button so in order to MASC I just give the 'ol stick a firm squeeze and I'll come to the battle so fast and be all over the faces of my enemies (>:D).

The best part is with the CH control manager I was able to get around a bug with the game controls - you see, jumpjets only recognize the digital WASD (or whatever you have set up) for directions. So analog steering like this doesn't work with jumpjets at all - you only ever go up. I have a script so that the throttle is spitting out both digital and analog with the analog taking precedence during mech operations, and only during jumping (when analog doesn't matter) I can steer around with the stick! If jumping ever gets more powerful and precise this should be good fun. The hat is also free for POV once we get those controls too :)

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Re: Assaults, What do you like?
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2010, 01:44:50 PM »
I have a Joystick but have been unable to get it to work and that is all I have ever used was joysticks (Logitech Extreme 3-D Pro) I have been having to use a mouse which I have never used for gameplay so I have been playing at a disadvantage.  :P

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