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Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« on: November 09, 2010, 07:43:14 AM »
PLEASE LOCK! Got my Answers already
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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 07:49:01 AM »
Has anyone News about the 0.4 release? I have not heared anything about that for weeks^^
And we already have 2 media releases some time ago...

Just say if the release will be in November or in December

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 07:50:16 AM »
Waiting for Crysis Wars Patch to play this... My Basescore for my computer performance is 7.7 out of 7.9

Im Running a GTX 460, 12gbram 3.88ghzx4 processor... This computer chokes with graphics on ultra when im playing custom maps on starcraft 2 1920x1080p when there is to many units on screen so i was wondering if i would have Framerate issues here or is SC2 that graphically challenging with high numbers of units on screen?

If anyone could just tell me if i need to step up more? or will i be ok?

 I'm pretty sure you'll be ok :)



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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 08:00:48 AM »
Waiting for Crysis Wars Patch to play this... My Basescore for my computer performance is 7.7 out of 7.9

Im Running a GTX 460, 12gbram 3.88ghzx4 processor... This computer chokes with graphics on ultra when im playing custom maps on starcraft 2 1920x1080p when there is to many units on screen so i was wondering if i would have Framerate issues here or is SC2 that graphically challenging with high numbers of units on screen?

If anyone could just tell me if i need to step up more? or will i be ok?

 I'm pretty sure you'll be ok :)


Figured i would ask didnt want to start playing and see a 10fps rate going... Like i said sc2 is all i have been able to test so far... But this can be closed then no need to bring up the release it will be here when it gets here

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 08:01:52 AM »
Thank you btw Siilk +1

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 04:26:05 PM »
You might want to tweak your settings a bit to get the best performance while still making it pretty.  Some features like torso twist is tied to  your FPS.  Just keep in mind that MWLL is MORE demanding that vanilla crysis.

If you can, run in 64 bit mode for better stability
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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 02:30:17 AM »
Just curious, you said you have a 3.88GHZ CPU? Is that the normal clockrate or is it overclocked? If thats normal, what CPU is it?

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 03:48:06 AM »
Waiting for Crysis Wars Patch to play this... My Basescore for my computer performance is 7.7 out of 7.9

Im Running a GTX 460, 12gbram 3.88ghzx4 processor... This computer chokes with graphics on ultra when im playing custom maps on starcraft 2 1920x1080p when there is to many units on screen so i was wondering if i would have Framerate issues here or is SC2 that graphically challenging with high numbers of units on screen?

If anyone could just tell me if i need to step up more? or will i be ok?

That doesn't sound right to me, SC2 doesn't seem like it has enough visual capabilities to even stress your hardware.

Don't you have Wars yet? If it runs well on Wars it will run well on 0.4.0 (maybe a little less FPS)

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 02:38:49 PM »
Just curious, you said you have a 3.88GHZ CPU? Is that the normal clockrate or is it overclocked? If thats normal, what CPU is it?

Its an QX9650 Overclocked from factory Says 4.0ghz but its really only 3.88 Intel 2 Extreme Quad Core i believe regular factory spec is 3.0x4... Limited Lifetime warranty on it aswell... Running liquid cooled setup with 8 fans and it still radiates a little bit of heat...


Also Running wars im at 75-90fps and on sc2 im running 60-70 fps then when thousands of units are on screen 1-10fps... Damn graphics card heats up like mad from that game... wars barely makes this computer work hard

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 01:42:07 AM »
I have to make the obligatory 'lol liquid cooling' post.

And the obligatory 'my CPU cost half as much as yours and runs 4.2GHz - on air :)'.

PS: Put another GTX 460 in there - two 460s are faster than one 480, and cost ≤ it.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 01:52:35 AM by Frostiken »

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 02:39:17 AM »
I have to make the obligatory 'lol liquid cooling' post.

And the obligatory 'my CPU cost half as much as yours and runs 4.2GHz - on air :)'.

PS: Put another GTX 460 in there - two 460s are faster than one 480, and cost ≤ it.

The LOL is on you (AGAIN). Liquid Cooling is a proven method that works. If you are going to OC and retain chip life liquid cooling is by far your best safety net.

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 05:03:25 AM »
also LC systems tend to be more quite then air cooled
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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 05:12:02 AM »
I have to make the obligatory 'lol liquid cooling' post.

And the obligatory 'my CPU cost half as much as yours and runs 4.2GHz - on air :)'.

PS: Put another GTX 460 in there - two 460s are faster than one 480, and cost ≤ it.

The LOL is on you (AGAIN). Liquid Cooling is a proven method that works. If you are going to OC and retain chip life liquid cooling is by far your best safety net.

Yes, the LOL is on me (AGAIN) because you can say incredibly stupid things.

So invest in a system that generally costs as much as a new CPU to maybe "retain chip life" (not like you can actually prove that there's a statistically significant advantage, since you just made that up), even though CPUs are designed to run perfectly fine on air in the first place. Temp is temp. Under full load my 4.2 GHz quad-core barely hits the mid-60s. If you're curious it's being cooled by an NH-U12P.

But of course let's ignore the fact that a liquid cooling system requires infinitely more maintenance than my air-cooled system (which requires exactly none) and is far more prone to failure. So yes, pay hundreds of dollars for a system that requires periodic work, makes more noise, is prone to failure, and worst-case-scenario will destroy your entire computer. On the plus side, your CPU might fail after six years instead of only five! You know, even though I could buy a new CPU for the cost of your water-cooling system, and I've never even heard of a well-cooled overclocked CPU dying because it 'wasn't on water'. Probably because you made that up to (presumably) justify your own uneducated, moronic purchasing decisions.

also LC systems tend to be more quite then air cooled

Water cooled systems are still cooled by radiators which have fans on them, as well as pumps. If anything they'll be noisier because unlike a CPU heatsink solution they're OUTSIDE the case and are rarely load-throttled. Fanless water cooling towers exist if you don't mind something the size of a small child taking up space.

The loudest part of my computer is the GPU fans and the Raptor HDD - but seeing as how a single water block for a GTX460 costs about $120, it's a small price to pay (two water blocks... or tri-SLI... hmmm). Furthermore, you still need fans in your case even with water cooling - my CPU fan blows air across the tangs of my RAM heat spreaders which keeps them cool too. Without the CPU fan they'd be running much hotter (which, in a twist of irony, completely flips around on Wolf's argument about chip life). And unless your case looks like a tentacle monster attacked it and you invest HUNDREDS of dollars, you still have to keep your NB, SB, PSU cool and while I'm skeptical about how much it affects them, hard drives.
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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 05:24:29 AM »
I have to make the obligatory 'lol liquid cooling' post.

And the obligatory 'my CPU cost half as much as yours and runs 4.2GHz - on air :)'.

PS: Put another GTX 460 in there - two 460s are faster than one 480, and cost ≤ it.

The LOL is on you (AGAIN). Liquid Cooling is a proven method that works. If you are going to OC and retain chip life liquid cooling is by far your best safety net.

Yes, the LOL is on me (AGAIN) because you can say incredibly stupid things.

So invest in a system that generally costs as much as a new CPU to maybe "retain chip life" (not like you can actually prove that there's a statistically significant advantage, since you just made that up), even though CPUs are designed to run perfectly fine on air in the first place. Temp is temp. Under full load my 4.2 GHz quad-core barely hits the mid-60s. If you're curious it's being cooled by an NH-U12P.

But of course let's ignore the fact that a liquid cooling system requires infinitely more maintenance than my air-cooled system (which requires exactly none) and is far more prone to failure. So yes, pay hundreds of dollars for a system that requires periodic work, makes more noise, is prone to failure, and worst-case-scenario will destroy your entire computer. On the plus side, your CPU might fail after six years instead of only five! You know, even though I could buy a new CPU for the cost of your water-cooling system, and I've never even heard of a well-cooled overclocked CPU dying because it 'wasn't on water'. Probably because you made that up to (presumably) justify your own uneducated, moronic purchasing decisions.

also LC systems tend to be more quite then air cooled

Water cooled systems are still cooled by radiators which have fans on them, as well as pumps. If anything they'll be noisier because unlike a CPU heatsink solution they're OUTSIDE the case and are rarely load-throttled. Fanless water cooling towers exist if you don't mind something the size of a small child taking up space.

The loudest part of my computer is the GPU fans and the Raptor HDD - but seeing as how a single water block for a GTX460 costs about $120, it's a small price to pay (two water blocks... or tri-SLI... hmmm). Furthermore, you still need fans in your case even with water cooling - my CPU fan blows air across the tangs of my RAM heat spreaders which keeps them cool too. Without the CPU fan they'd be running much hotter (which, in a twist of irony, completely flips around on Wolf's argument about chip life). And unless your case looks like a tentacle monster attacked it and you invest HUNDREDS of dollars, you still have to keep your NB, SB, PSU cool and while I'm skeptical about how much it affects them, hard drives.

So wait wait, you have never actually used a liquid cooling system have you? Hell from your statement I would infer you have never even seen one in person.

You can argue your fanboi attitude for air cooling all you want. The fact of the matter remains that there are people out there with the money to spend on Liquid Cooling, and therefore have every right to. It's entirely condescending of you to call them foolish for choosing to spend their money and time how they want to. Calling what I say "stupid" merely because of your own shortsighted "experience" (or lack thereof) illustrates your own ignorance. Your attacks against water cooling are over generalized and typically false. You have no idea the amount of custom machine building I do, and therefore should refrain from making yourself look more foolish than you already have. Oh and do point out where I was being hypocritical. I do not recall in my statement making any "do as I say not as I do or would do remarks." Your lack of maturity is showing. So is your inability to formulate a concise argument in text.

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Re: Havent got to test my computer out yet (Some Questions)
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 05:26:43 AM »
So is your inability to formulate a concise argument in text.

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Your lack of maturity is showing.

You have no idea the amount of custom machine building I do, and therefore should refrain from making yourself look more foolish than you already have.

$$ talks, ignorant forum poster walks.

I just rolled my eyes so hard they hurt.

Rage more plz.