Demolisher LBX20's > All (except shiva)

[KorJax]

Seriously, next time you guys are in a pinch and need a somewhat affordable comeback, only use Demolisher LBX20's. Pretty sure this thing has more armor than any mech considering one can take on the best novacat, followed by the best warhammer and still survive with half-health remaining (assuming you don't engage them at 1km out).

After constantly losing on Kagoshima against a couple of demos, I decided to switch to using them. Suddenly, I am the finger of god. Win! We managed to get from a 100 ticket loss to a complete stomp in a matter of 10 minutes from attacking with an impenetrable tank column featuring this.

The only thing that really was able to damage me well were shivas, but those were killed pretty easily from supporting demolishers in the distance shooting at the aero's from a distance (or other AA units will do the trick)

[Come and See]

What's your point?

[Arghy]

Yeah but unless you leave a demo at every point they'd be outrun by mechs and your vulnerable to missile barrages. Tanks excel at holding points but they have a nasty habit of crashing every time you move around.

[[MPB]OM_Sannyasi]

i rolled up into a base yesterday with an lbx demo, cockpitted 3 mechs in 3 shots and then killed the tank, the only vehicle i couldn't cockpit if you aim close with that thing it's stupidly easy to kill with

[IG142]

Yeah but unless you leave a demo at every point they'd be outrun by mechs and your vulnerable to missile barrages. Tanks excel at holding points but they have a nasty habit of crashing every time you move around.

Tanks are not particularly vulnerable to missiles. LRMs arc upward and rain down on the turret every time - the worst possible place to hit. ATMs, though they do hit the hull sometimes, are mostly guided toward the turret as well, plus are rendered much less effective by Demo LAMS. MRMs are better, but dangerously short ranged. And SRMs....if you're that close, you're dead anyway.

Demo's in general seem immensely powerful against most things.

[Stahlseele]

Well, seeing how they are basically the atlas of tanks . . it stands to reason they SHOULD be dangerous as all hell.
Furthermore, people seem to have little trouble taking out my hueys with missles of all kinds. They still aim for the turret, the turret is still gone first thing.

[Leeko]

Missiles generally don't work well against demolishers, especially groups of them, and especially ATMs. Friggen LAMS...

[Taemien]

Who the fapp said LBXs were underpowered? That LBX20 Demo is a bastard lol.

Group it with another AC20 Demo and you have a pretty sick duo. Though I don't suggest it in Deathvalley. Demo's get raped out there.

[IG142]

Well, seeing how they are basically the atlas of tanks . . it stands to reason they SHOULD be dangerous as all hell.

Yes, it is, and it should be. But this dangerous for this price... It's just a bit too much.

Furthermore, people seem to have little trouble taking out my hueys with missles of all kinds. They still aim for the turret, the turret is still gone first thing.

Relatively strong against LRMs, simply because they all hit the turret without any choice, compared to direct fire weapons carving out a thinly armored hull facing. If enough hit, sure they'll take you down through your turret. The Huit is also not massively armored like the Demolisher is, and has no LAMS.

[Nitro_R]

MRMs do a number on Demolishers.
The pattern is perfectly rectangular so all your missiles hit on one panel of the Demolisher!
And you outrange the Demos with LBX20.

[Flyingdebris]

there is a reason they are called demolishers

demolishers gonna demolish

[SquareSphere }12thVR{]

it's a freaking IS tank with two weapons, I LOVE IT. 

[KorJax]

Outranging things doesn't do much good when the gameplay requires you to get in close at a base to capture a point (hint: where there is lots of cover).

MRM's are a problem, but the mechs who have MRM's are generally going to die once the Demo gets in range (which isn't hard when their range is 650). And on any map that offers any sort of cover as a means to get in close (read: most of them) then it's pretty simple to evade fire.

The only real weakness they have is stuff like Gauss Rifles used at max range (which is only applicable in maps like death valley or if a demo tries to cross a bridge in Kagoshima that has heavy enemy activity on the other side).

In which case, the team switches to using Gauss Demo's. Sure... maybe the novacat with 3 ERPPC's, if he can keep his max range, will be victorous in this. In that case, the Demo simply needs to shred the mech's arms that carry this, then the novacat at long range is no longer a threat.

The only other options would be stuff like LRM's or Lt. Gauss... but these do so little damage (considering LRM's hit the top which is strongest, and they have LAMS) that the Demo will easily be able to close the distance.

Couple a Demo with a Morrigu that has 2 LAMs and long range capability, and you will steam roll everything. If you have a tank column, the only thing that can stop you is a bigger tank column or lots of shivas (if they don't have AA..).

Considering I can EASILY go toe to toe with a Mad Cat MKII or an atlas at half the price, it seems a bit rediculous.

[Stahlseele]

Tank Rush! kekekeke!
Improbable at best.
Most of the time, there are 2 Tanks per Team and the rest is either in BA, Aero or Mechs.
Mostly Mechs. and if have to close in to hit him, because he is hiding behind cover?
Hop onto the cover and shoot down. Most Tanks can't loop up further than a Mechs knees.
Which, granted, is enough for legging a Mech. But it is not enough to shoot something that's next to the tank on a building for example which is as high as the tank itself.
Furthermore: Tanks are supposed to be cheaper than Mechs. That's one reason why they are still in use in BT after all. this. time.
And still, the Morrigu is one of the most expensive units in the game, if i am remembering the prices right.

[BlueT]

What's your point?

What is your IQ?