Wow, victor, someone doesn't know how to take part in a discussion.
There shouldn't even be a discussion on this anymore. The mechanic isn't changing and the fact it's even brought up so much is ludicrous.
They key difference between my idea, and Vordermark's is that Vordermark wanted to remove the ability to leg people, and just have their speed lowered slightly as legs took damage.
I could be in favor of having mechs slow down as they take damage to the legs, but you do realize this would just make it far, far easier to leg a target that is moving slower? I don't get how this would help anything but people who think legging should be easier, which I'm not in the camp of. It's fine as-is barring individual mech armor changes.
I totally agree that legging is a 100% valid tactic. But it is underhanded, and some people will prioritize legging a target over any other section. You try to dismiss legging as a not being a problem, but the mere existence of so many "legging" threads is proof that it is indeed an issue.
It's not underhanded in the slightest. How is targeting a heavily armored, fast moving section of a target rather than a broad-target CT or other vital area underhanded? The only reason there's so many threads is people get legged and then frustrated because they have to eject and sit in their mech and die, not because it's imbalanced. In short it's not even about the mechanics, it's about the fact they get wounded
pride and then immediately want to have it "fixed."
As I, and others, have said repeatedly it's
more difficult to leg someone than to destroy their CT. People who leg on sight are actually less effective than people who try to kill you through other means on sight. There is nothing wrong with that. If someone wants to shoot your legs on sight realize they are less of a threat than they are otherwise. If they successfully leg you all the time, they could have just as easily successfully killed you.
Like Crush_libs pointed out in his example. There are times when legging is the most logical course of action to take.
and to quote wolf, "legging isn't the problem. The problem is the people who go out of their way to leg people."
If anything those people only do it to get a laugh out of how hilarious it is to watch people freak out because they got legged, which causes them to react with such anger it's like they personally exploited and crashed their game or something - sometimes worse. They're not doing it because it's easy, or cheap, but because total noobies perceive it as easy and cheap.
Did you ever play any fighting games? Basically people who complain about leggers are the guys who outlaw half the characters, and half the special attacks, because they're "cheap" and then get really really angry if someone uses said attacks on them. They want to drag everyone to their level by complaining how bad it is, rather than elevating themselves to counter it. 9 out of 10 players who gets mad about legging in my experience likes to stop their mech at a choke point and just trade shots with almost no movement at all - so of course they're going to get legged, they're not moving!
My "solution" doesn't remove legging. It doesn't even make it harder to leg people. You just get less reward for legging, which 9 times out of 10 won't be an issue. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that Crush_libs was content neutralizing an assault class threat with his puma. I'd also guess that if my idea were put into action, his teammates would have cared less that the atlas was now worth 1/3 the cbills and instead be thankful that the atlas wasn't punching their faces in.
In fact, the only major consequence from my idea is that it would severely cripple chronic legger's ability to rank up. From your vehemence, I have to ask, are you a chronic legger victor?
No, because as I've stated, it's simply not efficient unless I've already missed a shot and hit a leg with something heavy. It's the least effective area you can target. The lone exception is if someone complains about being legged, then I realize I have easy prey and a completely hilarious result from doing it. In fact, I can honestly say that's how it is across the board: The more you complain about being legged and rant about "honor" the more everyone is encouraged to leg you. Every time.
