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Offline KingLeerUK

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Re: This is a Beta...
« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2011, 05:16:24 AM »
You should be telling the BETA group what the ALPHA group is playtesting. Seriously what's the big secret? You aren't making money off this so it's not like OMG OUR IDEAS AND INTELLECUTAL PROPERTY ARE GOING TO BE STOLEN. Do I think the Team should discuss things they are planning but haven't dropped a moment of code on? fapp no that is a waste of time, but putting together a change log in advance for the BETA group should not be considered too much work.

The reason we do not publicise the current Alpha feature set under testing is that not all features end up shipping with releases.  Also, there are certain assets in the Alpha that we are under NDA ourselves to keep internal until completion.    It has been my experience that talking about planned or in-development features sets unrealistic expectations from some of the community or sparks a torrent of questions/criticisms on features that aren't even final yet.  The simple way to avoid any of the accompanying frustration from this situation?  Simply keep alpha development internal.
 
Also, the ideas that we come up with are OUR ideas and the decision on whether to release them or keep them to ourselves until release is ours alone to make.

Lastly on the torso inertia/lag business, why was it so difficult to get an explanation out? Thressan did an excellent job with his replies, (really +karma too him for that) if he wasn't available why not a quick "hey guys we'll address this for you in a moment" instead the board was left to troll itself to death.

You will forgive us if some of the developers on the team decide to take a day or two off after slaving to get a release out the door.  In my opinion we do well enough keeping our community informed and given a choice I would much rather have our developers spend their time developing new features than explaining or justifying them.

Again I respect all that you do for this game, and I truly want it to succeed.

Thank you for that sentiment.   It does sometimes seem that not all of the community have the same faith in our ability to deliver a quality game.
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Re: This is a Beta...
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2011, 05:16:33 AM »
You reported me to myself.  ;D

Someone can't tell the difference between humor and a flame. Take a chill pill brohan.

Oh, I was well aware of that...

And Def... We're not asking for a list of the Alpha stuff. That's there job. Just a complete list of the Beta changes so there's no shock factor. Not even a day before. Just before so we have
a decent chance to read and evaluate. This is to help YOU.

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Re: This is a Beta...
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2011, 05:21:15 AM »
Oh and for fapps sake "a fundamental lack of understanding on the communities behalf" ?? So now we're too stupid to understand you? Telling us in advance hurts you? Are you kidding, it tells us what's intentional and what is not. Knowing what then fapp you intend would curb much of the BS threads and certainly make moderating the forum easier.

 Saying this again so it isn't missed.

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Re: This is a Beta...
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2011, 05:25:13 AM »
You mad?

I think Defender has succeeded in his own, strange way, of eliciting the expected response. You're just kind of proving him right to keep up this level of rage.


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Re: This is a Beta...
« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2011, 05:25:49 AM »
Oh and for fapps sake "a fundamental lack of understanding on the communities behalf" ?? So now we're too stupid to understand you? Telling us in advance hurts you? Are you kidding, it tells us what's intentional and what is not. Knowing what then fapp you intend would curb much of the BS threads and certainly make moderating the forum easier.

 Saying this again so it isn't missed.

Yo dude. Calm down. Nobody pissed in your Koolaid. It's a fact. You guys don't understand what we're doing, how it's done, or the rationale behind it. I wasn't saying you're stupid and there's no reason for you to assume that. I was stating there are many things you all don't understand because A. We can't tell you, and, B. We don't tell you. There's no way for you to have an understanding of things you don't know about unless you have magical powers.

To be quite honest, I believe everything that needs to be said has been said in this thread. This discussion can be continued in the future but this thread is done. Thanks to all those who participated in the discussion and understand that this is a beta and everything is subject to change, rapidly and/or dramatically.
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