The "I Have Unusual Control Scheme Preferences" Thread

[GenericAnimeBoy]

With mech sim type games, it is nearly inevitable that wierdos like me  will want to use strange personalized control layouts to deal with the complex task of, for example, operating a mech.  I think it might be productive to have a thread (maybe even pinned?  ) to deal with the issue of control customization--list your odd control schemes, mention shortfalls in configurability in other sim titles, etc.

In particular, my ideal mech control scheme from Mechwarrior 4 used 2 joysticks (Dual-fisted FTW  ) a-like so:

Function	Mapping
Throttle	Left Stick Y Axis
Turn Mech	Left Stick X Axis
Tilt Torso+Viewpoint	Right Stick Y Axis
Twist Torso+Viewpoint	Right Stick X Axis
Fire Weapons	Right Stick Trigger & Thumb Buttons
Jump Jets	Left Stick Trigger
Targeting	Right Stick Hat

  Will there even be 'Targeting' a-la the MW games?  I didn't even think of that...

In any case, this setup can create problems--many games do not support mapping multiple discrete joysticks.  I have a program that can combine my two joysticks (MS Sidewinder and Saitek Cyborg 3D) into a single 8-axis, 16-button beast (thank you PPJoyJoy), but I haven't tried running that in Vista and it still requires the ability to select WHICH one joystick you will use. (grr  Crimson Skies)  Better yet would be the ability to map any axis of any connected stick to any appropriate function like Descent3 did, but if it's not available or possible/easy to implement in CryEngine2, I understand.

Short version for the 'TLDR' people --I use a 2 joystick control setup, and I'd like to know if it's reasonable to expect to be able to use a similar setup for piloting in MW:LL.

[Criminal]

Yeah rest assured that you'll be able to edit your key layouts very similar to how you can do it for Crysis. We will also be adding in a crouch-toogle.

[Galagher]

Nevertheless, it should be very tricky, steering your human character around with two joysticks aswell ^^ Or maybe console-experienced players should be able to do that..

BTW: I hate console fps

[Mrocz]

Why? In Battlefield 2 i was using joystick + throttle for planes and heli and mouse + keybord for infantry and tanks etc. In Crysis there is also option to customize the Key setups separately for each vehicle type and infantry... :> I don't see any problems...

[Galagher]

Yeah.. of course that would be possible.. But I personally dont like permanently switching back and forth between mouse/keyboard and gamepad or joystick.. Thats why I try to stick to my mouse/keyboard steering.

Although.. I could plug in my MOMO Steering Wheel  That must be weird.

[Wolf~72]

Galagher it sounds like u just dont have the right type of desk

i mean if i was going to the trouble .. or even 'when' i used to go to the trouble
of having a j-stick and mouse and kb , id make sure i didnt have to spend 10mins reconfiguring my desk
id just m+kb my way over to a plane or heli and infantry then as i got in , id move my hands slightly to the right
and be nice and comfy on my joystick

using 2 joy sticks with a mech would be the most awesome control method save one

using pedals to torso twist as well , ah only thing left after that is a cockpit to sit in

[onefistedboxer]

At the moment im using a wiimote configuration. Wii ir aim and nunchuck stick to turn, though i'd like to get the mech to turn by rotating the nunchuck. I'm currently minus one arm (broken collar bone), so i havn't been able to work on it much, but the config i'm moving to is joystick for speed, direction and sensors on my left arm and wiimote ir for torso and weapons on my right.  My one armed control scheme is one person doing direction on the jstick, one weapons/sensors ect on the keyboard and me telling them what to do whilst i aim with the wiimote.

[Old_Beowulf]

...My one armed control scheme is one person doing direction on the jstick, one weapons/sensors ect on the keyboard and me telling them what to do whilst i aim with the wiimote.

Wow!  I didn't know that any MW game supported a two man cockpit.   

Are there any mechs with two pilots?  Just wondering.    

[Aurora Paradox]

...My one armed control scheme is one person doing direction on the jstick, one weapons/sensors ect on the keyboard and me telling them what to do whilst i aim with the wiimote.

Wow!  I didn't know that any MW game supported a two man cockpit.   

Are there any mechs with two pilots?  Just wondering.    

Not that I know of.  However I am by no means an expert at Battletech.

Aurora Paradox

[PanzerBoxb]

I recall that the Battlemaster and Cyclops were described as seating two people in certain circumstances for command and control purposes but I cannot find a reference.  I am sure the local encyclopediacs will be along shortly to answer this. 

[overwatch]

As if on cue...

The Battlemaster you are referring to is a variant.

The BLR-2C BattleMaster, used with great effect by House Kurita in the War of 3039, is a premier command vehicle.   Though it lacks the CASE and double heat sinks of the Free Worlds League version, it has a second cockpit for a unit commander to direct stategy while a MechWarrior handles the BattleMaster in battle.

As far as I know, this is the only instance of a dual cockpit 'mech design.  And the second cockpit did not contribute to the operation of any of the 'mechs combat systems or piloting.