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Offline MerfMerf

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 08:32:28 AM »
RAC speed adjustments should only be limited by imagination, ever increasing, ever higher!!!!
All glory to the BWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR

No.
Leave the dakkadakka alone. Let those who like the annoying whining sound keep using the RAC2.

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 09:03:09 AM »
hearing individual shots on a high rof Gatling type weapon is lame though.

something with rotary in the name needs to sound like a roar, yo
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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 09:15:09 AM »
hearing individual shots on a high rof Gatling type weapon is lame though.

something with rotary in the name needs to sound like a roar, yo

Wow. This is a premier to me: This is the very first time I share not Flyingdebris opinion.

I am with MerfMerf regarding this topic.

RAC-2 shall sound like they do.

RAC-5 shall sound like they do.

But never ever decrease the rate of fire! It is already by far too slow IMO.
The only thing I really would like to see would be an alternative firemode to fire them with 1/3 speed, but no weapon heat and no spread then. (Same for UAC, IMO they should be able to switch to regular AC-'mode'. And I still want them to fire in bursts only - Yes, I take every chance I get to mention it.  :P )

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 01:15:14 PM »
Um. I think RACs are firing fast enough now. AFAIK they have 6 times the rate of fire of a regular ac of comparable size. As a result they should fire 3 times faster than a UAC2/5. From what I see they even fire faster than that by now. They were improved significantly in 0.4, making them useable at any range that is not exceeding their maximum. In their range however they are like the most devastating weapon there is and since most IS mechs bring along a shit load of armor you will be able to fire them for quite a long time. The Warhammer A is in my eyes the IS mech to fear atm. It lasts forever and anything that gets as close as 700m is pretty much doomed. At slightly over 92k it comes quite cheap (and how can a Timby C be anywhere in the same price range?! It does not stand a chance unless it runs away constantly and tries to battle the WHM at 700m with just the LBXs).

I am not saying I want RACs to be nerfed, they are fine as they are. Yet any further improvement would make me, as a clanner, feel let down quite a lot since I will just be able to fire my counter (UAC20) 4 times until it jams, and with the meager amount of armor my mech has I simply cannot afford to let it cool down all the time (and I would also have to get into 150m or less in order not to suffer a damage drop off [with a weapon that has an indicated range of 350....]). A solution to this would either be yet another UAC20 buff (which, as cool as it could be, would be a reason for all to use mechs mounting those again), or HAGs which no one really wants and the devs won't implement.

I like the sound the racs have now. That quad RAC2 Partisan just sounds awesome.

As for Mr.Bubbles (and to finally be on topic): I like the mech, but it is a variant that only serves a dedicated purpose. On Kagoshima this thing is a must buy if you have the cash. You can just put so much lead into your enemy while simultaneously denying him any possibility to evade it that you should come out on top against almost anything. If you however are playing on a wider map I would suggest other mechs. On Palisades I killed a Bubbles from 600 meters moving in to like 200 with a Mauler D. I was beaten red and black, but Mr.Bubbles would fall to my arsenal (despite the intermediate range and the 2LAMSs firing at my MRM40s).

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 01:19:39 PM »
Actually you can thank Aurailius for Mr. Bubbles, and KingLeer for Master and Commander. Defintely good additions for the Atlas  ;D
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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2011, 01:06:45 AM »
Went 40-2 with him last night in Kagoshima.
Those RAC5's mow down anything...morri, MkII, Demo..it didn't matter.

How can you not love being in the heaviest armor, with 2x LAMs and have the ability to kill armor, infantry, and air all at once?

BWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR!

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 01:47:19 AM »
RAC5's are hilarious when a huge ass shiva slowly boats by

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2011, 01:54:21 AM »
RAC5's are hilarious when a huge ass shiva slowly boats by

Something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBkRue2rva8

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2011, 01:48:03 AM »
Jesus dont take mr bubbles out in lag because your RAC5's are goddamn useless--i couldent even kill a warhammer because my RAC's refused to fire half the time and went from cold to overheating in seconds. My screen was jumping and my speed was registering at full throttle yet i was barely moving.

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2011, 04:17:57 AM »
Went 40-2 with him last night in Kagoshima.
Those RAC5's mow down anything...morri, MkII, Demo..it didn't matter.

How can you not love being in the heaviest armor, with 2x LAMs and have the ability to kill armor, infantry, and air all at once?

BWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR!


On Kago, Mr Bubbles is absolutely devastating. I remember I was in... I forget what I was in, but you came around a corner and at point blank range my mech was shredded. D3 is -the- base to hold as Mr Bubbles as anything that wants to kill you has to face you at sub 100m!


By the way, that was the 3rd highest score I've ever seen with my own two eyes!

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2011, 06:12:57 PM »

On Kago, Mr Bubbles is absolutely devastating. I remember I was in... I forget what I was in, but you came around a corner and at point blank range my mech was shredded. D3 is -the- base to hold as Mr Bubbles as anything that wants to kill you has to face you at sub 100m!

I believe you were in a Thor. I remember you tried jumping away down the cliff side but to no avail.
The BWWWWRRRRRRRRR found the back of your mech and some coring did occur.

It was glorious. :D

He's definitely not a mech you usually take on long range maps, like Death Valley (although holding D4 with him on Death Valley is effective sometimes).

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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2011, 07:07:09 PM »
RAC speed adjustments should only be limited by imagination, ever increasing, ever higher!!!!
All glory to the BWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR

No.
Leave the dakkadakka alone. Let those who like the annoying whining sound keep using the RAC2.

/Merf - Loves RAC5

As an aside, ya know what's sick? rotary autocannon. Since the smallest caliber cannon round is 20mm, that means that a RAC2 is firing at least 20mm rounds at that obscene ROF...and it still does rather light damage. Just goes to show how full of awesome 31st century armor is I guess. LOL
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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2011, 09:31:41 PM »
you realize a 20mm shell wouldnt do a thing to an M1. It would make a lot of noise, but even the 20mm armor piercing ammo would just bounce off. Even MBTs and some LBTs would ignore a 20mm. a 20mm cannon is only a 70 caliber round or so, which means that it is still an anti-inf round.

now RACs5 fire around a 60mm shell(i believe the ratio is slightly larger than 10-1 as AC20 are 250mm), which, while smaller than any light tank would carry, still could do considerable damage to heavy armor. as a comparison, A10s fire a 30mm, but they use depleted uranium rounds, which are rare, hard to make, and the plane was designed around that gun, not the other way around. A 55mm sabot round would have a hard time with sloped armor, but it would do fine vs flat surfaces. the tech 1000 years in the future really isnt all that high-tech.
RAC speed adjustments should only be limited by imagination, ever increasing, ever higher!!!!
All glory to the BWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR
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Re: Hooray for Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2011, 12:11:39 AM »
Haha its a common misconception but armor isent as strong as you would believe--even a M1 would be disabled under sustained MG fire. Sustained 20mm fire would shred any tank today and thats just standard slugs, HE or AP would destroy or disable the tank much faster. The front plate would survive of course but the human occupants would be rendered senseless eventually and anything on the tank that isent a 3 inch thick tempered plate would be destroyed by repeated strikes.

If you fired a small caliber round one at a time then yes the tank would be fine but if you fired 2000-4000 rounds at the tank theres no mobile armor today that can withstand it.

*just wanted to point out that a 55mm sabot round would most likely be able to penetrate all modern MBT's because a sabot round is a tiny javelin of death*