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Offline -SM-SUCKER

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Shiva E
« on: March 08, 2011, 01:59:39 AM »
I am wondering why I did not find a thread discussing the Shiva E variant.
A short heads up: The E variant is armed like the BeatStick MKII. 2xLBX20 and 2xLBX10. Additionally it has a BHP and 4 tons of ammo.
The Shiva E can kill anything (airborne) in range with a single alpha strike. And to get behind one of those you need to be lucky, because with the BHP it will notice you in time and turn to shred you away.
And the best part is its price. With less than 90k it is very cheap. Far too cheap if you compare similar priced assets.

I know that a decent ground based AA will kill this variant if it is 1 on 1. But any other asset will have severe difficulties dealing with it.

I am only into flying for a few days now, so I might be missing something, but this ASF seems too need some balancing. Let it be the price, speed, armor or the armament.

Please discuss.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2011, 02:17:51 AM »
There was a topic discussing the Shiva E, but it was locked withín hours.
Timing was a bit bad maybe, it was during the week where about 2 anti ASF threads spawned each day.


I agree that this variant needs some serious adjusting.
It is way to strong for that price, and having an ASF that is capable of onehitting other air units is a serious problem, too, IMHO.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2011, 02:24:01 AM »
If memory serves, I believe the devs said it wouldn't be changed.

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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2011, 02:29:41 AM »
KILL IT WITH LAZORS!! ;D ;D 8)
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2011, 03:23:57 AM »
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I will not start the week off with yet another aerospace rant topic.
 
The Shiva "E" will stay as it is.  It has the tonnage for its configuration and can be countered by other assets.  If the sole reason this is being forwarded as a problem is due to it appearing early in games due to C-Bill banking abuse, then know that we already have a fix in progress, to be deployed within the next few weeks after internal testing.  We have already stated this in numerous places on these forums and creating yet another thread about it does not serve a useful purpose.
 
Locked.

The above was posted by KingLeer in a post he locked, which is on the SECOND page of threads in this section of the forums.  Maybe you should look a little harder before starting a new thread?

Sorry for you lazy people who don't know how to search - http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,13031.0.html
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2011, 03:27:07 AM »
I was the one that created the other thread, and yes, the devs stated it will not change, and locked it right after.

I've defeated it on multiple occasions, but the only way is to go passive and fly with your eyes, attempting to sneak up on it.  After that, you gotta try and kill it before it runs back to its base or cap point turrets, which when talking about other Sulla variants, takes a very long time to kill.

We don't need to adjust the Shiva E, as long as we can get an ASF variant that can kill it quicker.  Not talking instagib here, like another Shiva E would do, but maybe perhaps a Sulla with 4 LBX-5s?
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2011, 07:34:42 AM »
All aeros should self destruct when shooting at anything but other aeros.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2011, 07:48:53 AM »
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2011, 08:23:34 AM »
Shiva E... Only problem is when one is running high-alt in passive, searching for aircrafts. I personally don't like it's ability to one-shot any aircraft, but... it's manageable. I have killed one with Sulla A. All you need is some fancy manoeuvres while approaching, and then make it dogfight with you. Lower the speed for better agility and beat it till it dies. It would take 3-4 alpha strikes to take Shiva down (btw, you can restore coolant later... if you will survive. So use it!).

Remember: it is slow, not agile, big and suffers the same targeting problems you do.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2011, 09:44:46 AM »
Who is ghosting as epicwinftw then?

Very nice comic btw :-X

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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2011, 09:48:17 AM »
The only thing that really bothers me (with ASFs in general) is their ability to "float" directly above their ground target they want to 2-shot or 3-shot, leaving the target itself with no chance to get a shot at it.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2011, 09:51:06 AM »
Quote from: nordwars on March 08, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Who is ghosting as epicwinftw then?

Very nice comic btw :-X

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Too easy...look into his eyes!!!  ;) :P
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2011, 10:41:24 AM »
It's plenty strong, but it doesn't have firebombs, therefore I have no problem with it.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 10:58:46 AM »
It's okay I guess ... but it could use a little more armour.
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Re: Shiva E
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2011, 11:07:35 AM »
Sorry if this was discussed earlier, but searching for "shiva" did not bring up this topic. Maybe search is somehow broken.
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