AMD/ATI HD6990 is Here

[Aidan]

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2381575,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121

[Stahlseele]

fapp that noise. literally.
more than 70db? seriously? are you nucking futs?
also, 629€ puhlease . . that's a markup of 150€ on what two 6970 would cost i think.
and THOSE are FASTER than the single dual-card, due to each sitting in it's own x16 slot.
more so, it's a dual card that will have the same problems with the µ-stuttering as ever.
because no, it did NOT get fixed. neither due to hardware, nor drivers.
i'll be shelling out 400 to 500€ for the gainward gtx 580 phantom 3072 MB . .
phys-x, cuda, only one GPU, MORE RAM, because it's not shared between 2GPU's like the 4Gigs on the 6990.
CHEAPER. QUIETER COOLER.
God damn it, look at this post . . and i am usually SUCH an ATI-Fanboy too . .

[shyrkonflex]

I don't see why you would need such high-end GPUs or CPUs nowadays ... back some time, you could only play some games on the highest settings with these models, but right now you can go nuts with 200$ components (and do anything with two 200$ cards SLI), so I don't really see the use of these things, especially considering the price and general awkardness they have (loud as hell, high energy cost, run very hot etc.) ...
I also don't see the performance progression in video games anymore (thanks nextgen consoles for ruining the videogame market forever btw., turning it into a mainstream pool of shit where everything gets developed in circles and is just put a higher number on the end because your weak hardware can't handle shit but your marketpower is so crazy that people still develop for you) that hardware like this would be usefull.

Yeah, kinda toasted the thing with my console rant, but eh ...

[Stahlseele]

because the rest of my system (see in my sig) is still good enough.
the only really choking part right now is the 4870x2
the 580 3Gig has more power, runs cooler, runs quieter and offers me DX11 and Cuda and PhysX.

[shyrkonflex]

Choking part for what ?
I can play anything (including Crysis on DX11 very high) even with my single 4870 on my crappy comp (dual core whatever AMD 64 3,2 g with 4 Gb ram) at a framerate of 23-25 fps on Full HD, so why would you guys have any problems with your shiny machines ?
I don't really get it, especially the price tag.
I see your point in it being an advancement, I used to be gearfreak too, but atm I don't see a real need for cards like that.

/ The GTX580 is something different, its one GPU and a ... reasonable price tag, I'd buy that one two if I had a system that could support it (and if I wanted it ).

[Stahlseele]

*shrugs*
beats me, i only play on 1680x1050 and i get frames between 15 and 20 in MWLL for the most time <.<

[Bear]

Choking part for what ?
I can play anything (including Crysis on DX11 very high) even with my single 4870 on my crappy comp (dual core whatever AMD 64 3,2 g with 4 Gb ram) at a framerate of 23-25 fps on Full HD, so why would you guys have any problems with your shiny machines ?
I don't really get it, especially the price tag.
I see your point in it being an advancement, I used to be gearfreak too, but atm I don't see a real need for cards like that.

/ The GTX580 is something different, its one GPU and a ... reasonable price tag, I'd buy that one two if I had a system that could support it (and if I wanted it ).

Depends. With all these new games coming out with the ability to span 3 Displays, as well as 3D technology coming in to play, it really makes a difference. 3 1920x1200 HD screens maxed with full AA and AF can drop an XFX 4GB Black Edition 5970 Dual GPU to an average in the 30's FPS, and get lows in the 20's. If you have screens capable of 75+hz and wanna use it, 20FPS isn't necessarily what everyone wants to dip down to. Now, the 5970 by XFX is supposed to be very good at overclocking, so you can definitely bring that up.

It also depends. My system struggles and I've got an OC'd XFX 5750. Might be bottlenecked by something else like the CPU, but on low I can only manage about a 27fps average. I bet if I crossfired, I'd be fine, because my 1GB of VRam gets maxed out about 2 minutes into the game.

If one screen is all you are gonna use, then ya, a 4870 will do it. If you start getting more stuff to run, then it all depends.

And these consumer level cards are nothing. Look up professional GPU's. They run 2-Grand easy.

[Iron Brain]

i actually invented this video card and it was designed to run on liquid helium. Sorry its not as good now that it uses plaion old boring air cooling guys! there was nothing i could do corporate calls the shots!

In all seriousness what games need this? Unless you are running something like a quad surround display set up. Either make game with new GFX or GTF TBPH.

[Spooky]

Obviously this card is simply made for hardcore enthusiasts.

[sleepysheep]

because the rest of my system (see in my sig) is still good enough.
the only really choking part right now is the 4870x2
the 580 3Gig has more power, runs cooler, runs quieter and offers me DX11 and Cuda and PhysX.

I own that card. You don't need 3gb of Vram UNLESS you are going triplescreen. With triplescreen, two GTX 580 3gb, I just LOVE that extra Vram, and I can run BFBC2 5760x1200, MAX settings, 32AA, blah blah total max, DX11, and get 60fps constant. It's sick

For the res you are running at, you will never use more than 1.5gb of vram, just never. Get the manufacture overclocked GTX580, that thing is stupidly good (Can't remember the name of the card, I'll look it up) will give you far better perfromance than the 3gb version of the card.

[Stahlseele]

*shrugs*
i want the single strongest single GPU card i can get.
and i figure if i get the 3GB Card and OC that one a bit, i should be set for 3 or 4 years . . hopefully <.<

[sleepysheep]

*shrugs*
i want the single strongest single GPU card i can get.
and i figure if i get the 3GB Card and OC that one a bit, i should be set for 3 or 4 years . . hopefully <.<

The 3gb of Vram and the fact it's not built as well, means it does not OC anywhere near as good as the super OC version of the card. You wll get far far better perfromance from the OCed version of the card, which can even be Oced even farther than the manufactores oc.

It's upto you, you will get a noticable fps increase though ^^

[Stahlseele]

As i said, main intention is to go from dual gpu to single gpu and STILL get a noticeable decrese in heat, sound and an noticeable increase in processing power . .

[sleepysheep]

As i said, main intention is to go from dual gpu to single gpu and STILL get a noticeable decrese in heat, sound and an noticeable increase in processing power . .

Then manufacture OC gtx580, with modded cooling > anything else It will run stupidly cool, even when oced, and be silent as you want it. Belive me when I tell you my GTX580 3gb is not quiet or cool. When the cards get hot, I have to turn my speaker volume up lol.

Also one GTX580 (not oced) doesn't beat my old 5970, but it's close, I'm sure it will beat two 4870, but not by much at all. The oced version of the 580, matches the 5970 in some games like Crysis, and beats it to a pulp in everything else.

There is just no reason to get the 3gb version, it's not quiet or cool, it's made just for triplescreen gaming, which it's fantastic for and not what you are going to use it for!


If you honestly do want a faster, cooler, quieter card to replace your current cards, you wouldn't be serioisly concidering the 3gb version of the GTX580, when it does not fit any of your requirments.

[Ghiest]

lol can't believe someone brought up 3d (as in 3d glasses shit) in a graphics card conversation.  Everyone say along with me ... GIMMICK.