Aero- One hit kills

[InvaderDad]

Hi;

  I joined a game late today, and found myself getting killed from a single aero hit while in a Shadowcat (radar off). Sadly (for me), this happened twice. At least the second time I was pretty sure I hadn't yet taken any other damage.

  Is this supposed to be possible?

  Thanks;

[Gremlich]

Yep, happens to me at least once a match.

[~SJ~NotSoCoolJ]

Fbombs, they can be a bitch. I was in that game. The Fbomb Shiva has enough of them to lay waste to an entire unit. They tend to attack those that are standing still.

[Profane Arbiter]

Hi;

  I joined a game late today, and found myself getting killed from a single aero hit while in a Shadowcat (radar off). Sadly (for me), this happened twice. At least the second time I was pretty sure I hadn't yet taken any other damage.

  Is this supposed to be possible?

  Thanks;

Avoiding F-bombs ina Scat usually isn't too hard because of its size and speed...don't get caught standing still however. If your radar is off, but you hear those engines nearby and getting louder, switch radar on. If you can clearly see that you're the target, you have one of two evasion options:

1) kick MASC on and make a stiff 90 degree turn at the last second
2) engage a well timed burst of your jump jets

Option #2 is virtually fool proof against all but the best pilots. Option 1 is a bit more dicey, and you'll often times still take some damage. Also, against top aero pilots, the stiff 90 degree turn will typically be ineffective.

As an aside, as annoying as it is to get hit with Fbombs, I even have to chuckle at a situation I encountered last night. I was on DV in a pristine Thor and attacking factory. I'm almost at the CP when I realize an aero is targeting me. I'm not sure I remember who it was, but he was one of those with skills. Anyway, I decide to make an entrance with my Thor and dodge the F-bombs in a single move by jumping over the factory perimeter wall. Well, as it turned out I jumped and landed right in the spot where the F-bombs hit, leaving me all red and black and pretty much just held together by shoe string an bubble gum. The lone defender within the base, a ridiculous, clearly surprised little Uller, pew-ed and finished me off with 1 shot.

How humiliating. LOL

[~SJ~ Wolf]

Hi;

  I joined a game late today, and found myself getting killed from a single aero hit while in a Shadowcat (radar off). Sadly (for me), this happened twice. At least the second time I was pretty sure I hadn't yet taken any other damage.

  Is this supposed to be possible?

  Thanks;

If you know they are coming at you, swing your mech into a button hook pattern. You avoid nearly every bomb unless your reaction is too slow.

[Driller]

i usually run in a LBX scat when i hear them coming i like to jump and smack em in the nose with an alpha more often then not you get a good shot at them to but yea had many a mech deaths from Fbombs 

[(TLL) Heretic]

Hi;

  I joined a game late today, and found myself getting killed from a single LBX hit while in a Sulla (radar off). Sadly (for me), this happened twice. At least the second time I was pretty sure I hadn't yet taken any other damage.

  Is this supposed to be possible?

  Thanks;

Fixed. For perspective.

[Virt]

Or you could just fly aeros yourself, be a topscorer, earn the admiration of your friends and family, and be a hero to your groundpounding unit buddies.

As we like to say over at squadron... "Aeros: feel the win in your hair!"

[sgnl05]

Hi;

  I joined a game late today, and found myself getting killed from a single LBX hit while in a Sulla (radar off). Sadly (for me), this happened twice. At least the second time I was pretty sure I hadn't yet taken any other damage.

  Is this supposed to be possible?

  Thanks;

Fixed. For perspective.

Huh? Was anyone actually talking about this or did you just feel the need to bring it up?

[Come and See]

The best strategy to avoid being strafed by Aerospace is to move sideways when they approach. Honestly I'm kind of getting frustrated of this whole F-bomb's vs LBX sea-saw and I wish they would just nerf it to the ground.

It's not fun being in an Aerospace and next thing you know you're dead or at 5% HP because somebody blasts you with an LBX-20. It's not fun being in a Mech and next thing you know you're at 10% HP because somebody drops a pair of bombs on you. Both can be avoided, but everyone gets tunnel vision, bad luck, or gets outplayed.

The Long Tom (even though it can do similar damage) is much more balanced because it's a stationary target, makes a loud noise when fires, has paper armor, requires team work to be effective, and the team can usually work around it by going passive radar. You get hit by a Long Tom shell = usually your fault.

When I get Long Tomed I honestly don't even care as much, but it's just utterly frustrating getting instant gibbed by an LBX-20 because all somebody has to do is line up a cursor. I mean -- where's the skill involved? Point cursor, boom target dead -- hurr you got outplayed. Hell, I can fly in a F-bomb Shiva towards a Scat and they'll blow their JJs and think they got away -- wrong, I'll just pop my brakes and turn around and drop them on you just as you land -- hurr, outplayed.

So is anyone not against lowering F-bomb's damage and the LBX multiplier on planes then balancing everything around that?

[xDeityx]

The difference is that you choose to get in range of the LBX20.  It can't one shot you unless you're stupid close.  That 'mech your fbombing or shiva e'ing does not have that luxury.

[DFDelta]

The difference is that you choose to get in range of the LBX20.  It can't one shot you unless you're stupid close.  That 'mech your fbombing or shiva e'ing does not have that luxury.

Many mechs with LBX20 have JJ, and the LBX has a rather good range itself. That makes you vulnerable as soon as you're lower then 800 or so meters.
Either you fly so high that youre completely out of cover and get blasted to bits by normal AA, or you fly low and get blasted to bits by something with an LBX.

So is anyone not against lowering F-bomb's damage and the LBX multiplier on planes then balancing everything around that?

I'd love it.
I like flying stuff like the Shiva Prime or Sulla E, but usually they are a bad choice because traditional AA is totally overpowered against them (and has to be, to stand any real chance against the FBomb and TBolt variants)

[Taemien]

The best strategy to avoid being strafed by Aerospace is to move sideways when they approach. Honestly I'm kind of getting frustrated of this whole F-bomb's vs LBX sea-saw and I wish they would just nerf it to the ground.

It's not fun being in an Aerospace and next thing you know you're dead or at 5% HP because somebody blasts you with an LBX-20. It's not fun being in a Mech and next thing you know you're at 10% HP because somebody drops a pair of bombs on you. Both can be avoided, but everyone gets tunnel vision, bad luck, or gets outplayed.

The Long Tom (even though it can do similar damage) is much more balanced because it's a stationary target, makes a loud noise when fires, has paper armor, requires team work to be effective, and the team can usually work around it by going passive radar. You get hit by a Long Tom shell = usually your fault.

When I get Long Tomed I honestly don't even care as much, but it's just utterly frustrating getting instant gibbed by an LBX-20 because all somebody has to do is line up a cursor. I mean -- where's the skill involved? Point cursor, boom target dead -- hurr you got outplayed. Hell, I can fly in a F-bomb Shiva towards a Scat and they'll blow their JJs and think they got away -- wrong, I'll just pop my brakes and turn around and drop them on you just as you land -- hurr, outplayed.

So is anyone not against lowering F-bomb's damage and the LBX multiplier on planes then balancing everything around that?

I'm down for that. Double blast radius of bombs, reduce damage to a quarter and get rid of the modifiers vs aero.

The biggest complaint people have with ASF is the Fbombs. I don't think I've heard a peep about the other variants except for maybe the LBX Shiva.

[ELH_Vivicector]

I prefer Sulla A as an Ultimate pain-dealling machine. With all its range AA may be rendered as useless under normal circumstances. Versatile, long-range, precise... I find myself stuck with it for nearly the whole game. Also, it is not so rage-creating, but still - hard to dodge lasers, you know. I am now keeping somewhere 1st/2nd place in my team with it. And transferring about 300k in bank for the whole game.

IMO, Sulla A is really underestimated and underused. FBombing in a Sulla in nearly a suicide run against a good team. With Sulla A... You shoot from 900 meters and turn back, they think: "WTF? Oh, Sulla! Shoot! hell, out of range!". AA is also nearly useless at such distance.

So, use it! No rage from Mechwarriors, no LBX problems, no overpowered AA! All you need is good controller of "Mouse" type

[More_Dakka]

Don't whore fbombs, be a balloon whore!

Fixed.