Behavior on serious sugestions ...

[Moe479]

Im miss quite alot of taking requests realy serious, spaming threats with nonesense and posting silly images, just shows that that even the dev team not take every request as it is, as a request.

it actualy just show disrespect to the topics author, saying him "it makes no sense to make further sugestions on mwll, we already have fixed our goals and we just lure u in that forum to waist your time".

maybe a bit harsh but thats what basicly happes over and over there ... and i realy like those who just read the name of the poster and not that what hes posting, to make thier opininon ... that realy need any skill ... further more its getting personaly, and than suddenly the whole thread gets locked, leaving the original author with no chance to respond on made statements ...

even if u have already decided on a topic, just post your descision without blaming the author, even it was requested earlier, hell for a newbie like me its impossible to read trough ALL threads started before.

i just asking and let u know my idears ands opinions ... nothing more nothing less ... wasnt the forum made for that?

sorry iam used to say straight away what i think, no matter of the position iam addressing, i dont put diffrences there cause evryone i can talk to is human, other evidence lacks prof and yes i dont beleve in god, but i think so called holy scripts give orders for life within others of my own kind but i dont think even one has proved to be the right and only one, i just would call myself educated in ethics, and this enforce me saying the truth no matter how painfull it is, to me, to others, to evryone.

and of course iam sorry for my bad english, iam trying to get better.

[Aidan]

Harsch is spelled harsh. Serios is spelled serious. You also need work on your grammer and sentence structure. Keep trying, you will get better.

[Moe479]

corrected, thanks, was just a backfall in my native language to complement 'sh' with an 'sch'.

[[CW]Aresye]

The spelling and grammar makes it a bit confusing, but I think I see what you're talking about.

Remember, the mod is influenced by us beta testers, and we also help bring unseen balance problems to light.  Other than that, we can make suggestions and requests, but whether or not they're taken seriously is in the dev's hands.  The mod isn't based around requests, but sometimes every now and then, a really good suggestion is implemented, but once again, it's rare.

I think some people are under the belief that the mod is community made.  As in, we come up with ideas, and the devs make it happen.  This couldn't be farther from the truth.  The devs have a set path, and a determined goal that fits their best interests.  They are not obligated to listen to any of our suggestions should they so choose.

[=CJW=YalK]

First: Guys....seriously, lay off his grammer...at least in a "ignorant asshole" way....I'm assuming English is not his native language, so cut him some slack, never the less it is hard to follow at times....(if you were honestly critiquing on a trying to help basis, then I apologize)...

Second: @ Op...*sigh* just drop it man...just....drop it (I hope that came off in a dejected resigned kind of way)

[(TLL)CapperDeluxe]

suggestions are welcome I think, however just because you have what may seem a good idea doesn't mean it matches some very important criteria (and maybe more than just what I list below):

- technologically implementable
- time/resource-wise implementable
- gameplay/balance-wise desirable
- fun-wise desirable
- fits within the subject matter
- fits within the scope of the game


I would say don't lost heart, its hard to make a game that everyone likes, doubly so to make a game that caters to such an elite following as battletech fans.  But the vision is bright, and the future is brighter   So keep suggestions flowing, just try not to take any responses personally, as they build character to critique ideas and pave the way for better ideas in the future.

[whatever]

make as may suggestions and ideas as you want...

some of my suggestions seemed good at the time (some of best ones were thought up after a marathon of mw:ll and red bull energy drinks at four in the morning )

and some other ideas for the game.... well the needed some revision or ... well were just bad ideas!

just remember, this is only a game! take everything with a grain of salt and avoid feeding the trolls.. just ignore them.

sometimes it seems like a great idea but turns out to be half baked and worth a chuckle...

[Artemis Dragmire]

Should be added to Capper's post - Don't think you're the first person to complain about a certain mechanic or mechanics that you find annoying, then find it shocking when the devs react poorly to you when you rage about it on the forums without searching.

And I'm not saying you did this, but that should also be a guideline, which is why a list of "commonly requested changes" should be stickied on top of the suggestions forums so that people can have an even easier way to find out which topics have already been beaten to death.

[[CW]Aresye]

I wasn't trying to rip on him for his grammar, just wanted to make it clear that I couldn't understand fully what he was talking about, so he could correct me if I was wrong on my assumptions.

[Askis]

Grammar for a non-native speaker is one thing, but is using the spell check really that hard?

Here, didn't even take me five minutes and it's already way easier to understand:

I'm miss quite a lot of taking requests really serious, spamming threads with nonsense and posting silly images, just shows that that even the dev team not take every request as it is, as a request.

It actually just show disrespect to the topics author, saying him "it makes no sense to make further suggestions on mwll, we already have fixed our goals and we just lure you in that forum to waste your time".

Maybe a bit harsh but that's what basically hopes(happens?) over and over there ... and i really like those who just read the name of the poster and not that what he's posting, to make their opinion ... that really need any skill ... further more its getting personally, and than suddenly the whole thread gets locked, leaving the original author with no chance to respond on made statements ...

Even if you have already decided on a topic, just post your decision without blaming the author, even it was requested earlier, hell for a newbie like me its impossible to read trough ALL threads started before.

I just asking and let you know my ideas and opinions ... nothing more nothing less ... wasn't the forum made for that?

Sorry I'm used to say straight away what  think, no matter of the position I'm addressing, i don't put differences there cause everyone i can talk to is human, other evidence lacks proof and yes i don't believe in god, but i think so called holy scripts give orders for life within others of my own kind but i don't think even one has proved to be the right and only one, i just would call myself educated in ethics, and this enforce me saying the truth no matter how painful it is, to me, to others, to everyone.

And of course I'm sorry for my bad English, I'm trying to get better.

You know, if I were a dev, the first thing that'd really rub me the wrong way would be your first paragraph, because you talk about "requests" not ideas or suggestions.
I really hope you meant one of the two, because assuming that you can make requests, just because you are one of many beta testers, and that the devs need to take them seriously no matter what they are about, is rather jaded...

Also, if you want to be taken more seriously, write you, not u, use the spell check, if you're not sure about a word, use dict.cc and at least try to use upper/lowercase properly.
It's not that hard, but if a post looks like some 12 year old Halo-kiddie wrote it, people will not take it seriously.

[Buzz_Litebeer]

Harsch is spelled harsh. Serios is spelled serious. You also need work on your grammer and sentence structure. Keep trying, you will get better.

Unless you are Captain Harsch of the Valexa Rangers from the Book by Loren Colemen in the battlech universe called "Storms of Fate."

Then it is "Harsch"

[CGB [CoffiNail]]

Harsch is spelled harsh. Serios is spelled serious. You also need work on your grammer and sentence structure. Keep trying, you will get better.

Unless you are Captain Harsch of the Valexa Rangers from the Book by Loren Colemen in the battlech universe called "Storms of Fate."

Then it is "Harsch"

HAHA good point Buzz

[Defender]

Grammar for a non-native speaker is one thing, but is using the spell check really that hard?

Also, if you want to be taken more seriously, write you, not u, use the spell check, if you're not sure about a word, use dict.cc and at least try to use upper/lowercase properly.
It's not that hard, but if a post looks like some 12 year old Halo-kiddie wrote it, people will not take it seriously.

This.

If you want us to take you seriously. Take your own posts seriously. If I'm going to take the time to read your suggestion, take the time to make it legible.

Also, sending me a PM about locking a thread (after all was clearly said and done and our opinion and stance stated), while basically being derisive about not letting you belittle our efforts further (Yes, I read your PM and the post attached and I didn't like it). I was glad I locked the thread when I did because your post did nothing to further your argument or enhance the thread in any way, and you called us out angrily for basically just not giving you whatever you wanted, when and how you wanted it.

We listen to opinions, we read the forums, and we play the game. If you have a well-written idea that fits within our game design, we'll discuss it and possibly add it to a future revision. If we -don't- like an idea, some of us Devs will actually tell you why we don't like it and why it doesn't fit into our game design so people can understand our thought process behind the design. We also do not take "Requests" as we work for no-one but ourselves and the community as a whole.

Calling us names and belittling our efforts do not make your points any stronger.
This post does not just go for the OP, but for anyone who wants to share an idea and post suggestions. This game is not open source and it is not a democracy. We have a vision and we're on schedule to realize this vision. If your ideas fit within our vision of the final product, it may be added. If you idea does not, we have a tendency to tell you why it doesn't.   

[Cujo]

If you have well thought out ideas, post them, but with the knowledge that we put countless unpaid hours into building this mod.  So please, don't be disrespectful, if you have criticism, let it be constructive, if you have praise, we will do our best that it be well deserved.  I do not think this topic requires more discussion, but if that is not the case, please keep it civil.

[Moe479]

Okay, let me explain again, probably it was misspelled, wrong transported or not understood: 
 
It's impossible to say for MWLL "its based entirely on the work of the MWLL team". 
 
It's CryTek letting you use parts of CryEngine for peanuts, finally, not even worth to visit the PayPal site in terms of work time standing behind it, buying Crysis Wars for like 9,90€ and getting engine related mod tools for free is practically setting things free to anyone in the western world willing to pay that ridicules obolus (sorry i used the more fitting Latin term cause 'fee' sounds so enterprising to me). 
 
Even Microsoft, i was told on these forums, gave MWLL royalties for free use of BT content within a nonprofit game project, i don't want to know the values MS shifted to FASA the time they acquired the rights for doing MW4 and other somewhat BT related titles from them, only cause MWLL claimed to make something more out of it, Microsoft failed to get into the pipes for years. Of cause MWLL made something, but 'more' is a quite subjective term on what you count in and not. 
 
All i was requested is the same good sense on work the MWLL team has done. 
 
It was not asked for tech docs, or rights on models, animations, textures and other content. 
 
It was just asked for the freedom of adding, editing, testing and finaly contributing on the mod without actually joining the MWLL team, without being restricted even somehow by opinions or rules beside legislative ones or your own. 
 
Nothing more, nothing less. 
 
It took you guys months of hard work to archive the current status on the mod, and it's not only me thinking it lacks the progress and numbers of players it deserves by overall concept and design, only small bugs, some unfinished looking models and textures and overall lack of more content and gamemodes is the major difference to a full scale AAA rated title.

(pleased enough?)

Don't be so smug, don't build fortifications you can't get out anymore!
 
Isn't this just buy these facts and views, regardless of other problems to realize it, a serious one? deserve it disrespect and blamed to be stupid and called not elaborated enough to be taken serious?
 
Probably it's understandable that, so thinking, i tend to forget a project based on works of others is of cause not contributing in the same way, and getting a bit pissed of spamming the thread requesting more freedom with ... spam 
 

This was pushed trough http://www.spellchecker.net/spellcheck/ , and it reported the word 'spellcheck' as an error, beside names and brands. 
 
A well working grammar checker was not found, and i have doubts there is even one able to validate non Tolkien constructed languages, where exception is the major rule.