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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2012, 05:49:07 PM »
That made me nod sagely to myself and say, "A whole 750 kilobytes on a device so complex it enables faster than light travel? Yes, that sounds about right."  ;D

Folds space, not ftl. 99% sure, if not BT becomes more homo.


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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2012, 05:54:24 PM »
That made me nod sagely to myself and say, "A whole 750 kilobytes on a device so complex it enables faster than light travel? Yes, that sounds about right."  ;D

Folds space, not ftl. 99% sure, if not BT becomes more homo.

No you are right.  No FTL travel in a warp sort of sense



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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2012, 05:58:06 PM »
Yes, how could we forget that you're not actually going faster than light when you're totally going faster than light. You know, with the instantaneous teleportation and all. >_>

Think of how good that data compression may be though.  Could be like 15 1000 page books condensed in to 750 kilibytes :D

I'm just thinking of the artifacting if you tried to compress images the same way - "Okay, is this supposed to be a drive core element, or Star League-era porn?"

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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2012, 05:59:35 PM »
In the way that you're not going faster than light, technically you have no motion at all.

Don't be a dense arse.


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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2012, 06:04:04 PM »
"Oh hey look, after activating this device, I reached my destination FASTER THAN LIGHT CAN TRAVEL."  :P

Who's being dense here?

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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2012, 06:05:40 PM »


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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2012, 06:07:32 PM »
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Who's being dense here?
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You are.

Touché, sir. I tip my hat to you.

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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2012, 06:09:53 PM »
That made me nod sagely to myself and say, "A whole 750 kilobytes on a device so complex it enables faster than light travel? Yes, that sounds about right."  ;D

Folds space, not ftl. 99% sure, if not BT becomes more homo.

No you are right.  No FTL travel in a warp sort of sense

Warp drive also folds (warps) space around itself. Any transportation technique where you can reach a destination faster than the light can travel there from the point of origin is called "faster than light".

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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2012, 06:16:05 PM »
Nope.


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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2012, 10:40:17 PM »
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In 1994 Alcubierre proposed a way of changing the geometry of space by creating a wave which would cause the fabric of space ahead of a spacecraft to contract and the space behind it to expand.[1] The ship would then ride this wave inside a region of flat space known as a warp bubble, and would not move within this bubble, but instead be carried along as the region itself moves as a consequence of the actions of the drive. If this is so, conventional relativistic effects such as time dilation would not apply in the way they would in the case of a ship moving at a very great velocity through flat spacetime, relative to other objects. This method of propulsion would not involve objects in motion at speeds faster than light with respect to the contents of the warp-bubble; that is, a light beam within the warp-bubble would still always move faster than the ship. Thus the mathematical formulation of the Alcubierre metric does not contradict the conventional claim that the laws of relativity do not allow a slower-than-light object to accelerate to faster-than-light speeds.

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Rotational frame-dragging (the Lense–Thirring effect) appears in the general principle of relativity and similar theories in the vicinity of rotating massive objects. Under the Lense–Thirring effect, the frame of reference in which a clock ticks the fastest is one which is revolving around the object as viewed by a distant observer. This also means that light traveling in the direction of rotation of the object will move past the massive object faster than light moving against the rotation, as seen by a distant observer. It is now the best-known effect, partly thanks to the Gravity Probe B experiment.

Short version, its theoretically possible to drag a bubble of spacetime faster than C (speed of light) without breaking the laws of physics
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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2012, 12:23:20 AM »
Doesn't drag, expands and contracts.

There's no movement involved.


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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2012, 06:15:39 AM »
It does drag, its been confirmed by the gravity probe B experiments

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They were intended to measure how space and time are "warped" by the presence of the Earth, and by how much the Earth's rotation "drags" space-time around with it.


http://einstein.stanford.edu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_Probe_B

Its a fascinating set of experiments, well worth a read if you like this stuff

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The other effect being measured by GP-B, known as “frame-dragging,” was postulated by Austrian physicists Josef Lense and Hans Thirring two years after Einstein published his general theory of relativity. It states that as a celestial body spins on its axis, it drags local spacetime around with it, much like a spinning ball in bowl of molasses would drag around some of the molasses as it spins.

Particularly intriguing, the frame-dragging measurement probes a new facet of general relativity—the way in which spacetime is dragged around by a rotating body
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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2012, 06:28:00 AM »
"Oh hey look, after activating this device, I reached my destination FASTER THAN LIGHT CAN TRAVEL."  :P

Who's being dense here?

Actually if we look at the figures for the universe it is possible to travel faster than light,

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Current interpretations of astronomical observations indicate that the age of the universe is 13.75 ± 0.17 billion years,[6] and that the diameter of the observable universe is at least 93 billion light years or 8.80×1026 metres.[7] According to general relativity, space can expand faster than the speed of light

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

If the data is correct parts of the universe following the BB, had to have been pushed out faster than the speed of light in order to be where it is today.

Worth a read

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/possible.html#prep

http://news.discovery.com/space/warp-drive-spaceship-engine.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/364496.stm

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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2012, 06:48:45 AM »
As you might guess this is a subject of great personal interest, The truth is most peoples understanding of the nature of reality is pretty basic.
Most people are unable to imagine the "shape" of the universe, and think that the speed of time is fixed, when in fact its a variable



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-09-24/time-passes-faster-the-higher-you-are/2272360

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Researchers in the United States have for the first time shown that time passes faster the higher up you are.

In a curious aspect of Albert Einsten's theory of relativity, they show that someone living or working long hours in a top floor apartment or office will age more quickly than someone on the ground floor.

To understand this research, you first need to grasp an idea thrown up by Einstein more than 100 years ago.

In his theory of general relativity, Einstein predicted that a clock at a higher elevation would run faster than a clock on the planet's surface because it experiences a weaker gravitational force.

The speed of light  aka C is also a variable


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light

Mankind really has only begun to scratch the surface of reality.

Its an exciting time to be alive i reckon
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Re: Battle Tech novels
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2012, 10:36:34 PM »
I wasn't referring towards drag, but you're right about that in principle.

I wish I had the energy to go on, but at least assume I'm at least half as well read as yourself and then we can call it quits.


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