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Offline Bitey

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option to remove laser burn particle
« on: November 22, 2011, 09:23:50 PM »
I've been meaning to post this for awhile, but it always slips my mind when I exit the game.   The issue for me is that when you fire off the lasers, the sparks that drop off of it are a major drain on framerate.  Any kind of laser unit will slowly lose around 10-20fps at some times while the little flakes drop off through the ground.  A simply option to turn these burn flakes off would save that massive drain of graphical power.

Also, this can apply to the blinding power of the ac boats when they hit your cockpit.   Even at the lowest settings of graphics both of these effects still tax the hardware for noticeable frame drops.

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2011, 10:17:51 AM »
I will just post this screenshot as an example of how over the top some of the impact effects are.  Lately I have just been absolutely annoyed at whatever weapon particle it is that does this, the crazy blinding ricochet that for all intents and purposes blinds the receiver.  If it is intended it is quite a random way to give a weapon an advantage.

 

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 12:53:49 PM »
It looks pretty, looks good, and is realistic to have things flying off when a missle hits you, or bits of armour when a laser is shreading you to bits. That's not to say there isn't a way to lesson the particles using the CFG, since i'm sure someone increased it, so must be a way to decrease it too. Effects would still be there but not as bad.

Of course the huge blinding light can be a bit meh, but it's not that bad when your actually in the cockpit. It helps give the real effect of a missile hitting you in the face, which is needed.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2011, 09:02:53 AM »
The point wasn't so much about the AC's  however the only thing that needs to be an option for that would be to have less of the explosive sparkler effect.  Leave the big flashy light that obscures vision, but remove all the sparkly effects that suck down framerates.

My orignal point is referring to how the laser burn drops sparks on EVERY surface and merely having those sparks drift in the air cause significant frame loss.  I simply ask for an option that would control the amount of sparks lasers spawn, or something that disables them all together.

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2011, 12:33:34 PM »
Just turn down particles quality?

I run medium, and it's the only setting I run this low for explicitly this sort of reason. The difference between medium and high in an intense firefight is about 15-20 fps on my unlocked 6950, and it doesn't really look much different.

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2011, 12:39:49 PM »
Just turn down particles quality?

I run medium, and it's the only setting I run this low for explicitly this sort of reason. The difference between medium and high in an intense firefight is about 15-20 fps on my unlocked 6950, and it doesn't really look much different.

He can't even run it on the lowest of settings. There is a cfg command to lower particles not sure if it work for this. I'll have a look in a bit.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2011, 02:24:16 PM »
''e_particles [0,1] - This setting controls the particle system, and if set to 0 disables all particle effects, such as smoke and dust. Note that disabling particles also disables particle-based distortion effects such as heat distortion. Disabling the particle system can dramatically improve FPS, especially during heavy combat and around explosions, but it also significantly reduces realism (system).''

''i_particleeffects [0,1] - If set to 0, disables weapon-specific particle effects, which includes the muzzle flash and heat distortion around the barrel of guns for example. This can improve performance when firing a weapon at the cost of some realism.''

I doubt the second one is needed depends how MWLL is set up. Just disable both in cfg file and see if you notice any difference.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2011, 11:50:14 PM »
Just turn down particles quality?

I run medium, and it's the only setting I run this low for explicitly this sort of reason. The difference between medium and high in an intense firefight is about 15-20 fps on my unlocked 6950, and it doesn't really look much different.

He can't even run it on the lowest of settings. There is a cfg command to lower particles not sure if it work for this. I'll have a look in a bit.

He is not talking about the game being unplayable for him, due to the particle effects.  I think he has fairly high system specs. 

It is more the fact that it brings down everyone's framerate when the excrement hits the air-conditioner.  I know there are things we can change, but it is not
always obvious which will affect what, exactly.

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2011, 11:53:42 PM »
Just turn down particles quality?

I run medium, and it's the only setting I run this low for explicitly this sort of reason. The difference between medium and high in an intense firefight is about 15-20 fps on my unlocked 6950, and it doesn't really look much different.

He can't even run it on the lowest of settings. There is a cfg command to lower particles not sure if it work for this. I'll have a look in a bit.

He is not talking about the game being unplayable for him, due to the particle effects.  I think he has fairly high system specs. 

It is more the fact that it brings down everyone's framerate when the excrement hits the air-conditioner.  I know there are things we can change, but it is not
always obvious which will affect what, exactly.

Well I notice no difference in FPS at all, sure if you fire like 20+ lasers at once i might notice a small drop if i looked where they all hit but nothing to worry about in general....

And I already told him how to disable them or enable them. I couldn't find a way to just lower the particle count, but I know there is such an option. Just disabling them will make the game look more ugly, but will stop his FPS dropping like a stone...

*Edit* Crysis also seems to dump particle effects onto the CPU unless you tell it to use the GPU, so if you have a weak CPU (Slow clock speed under 3ghz and or dual core or lower) you are gonna get your CPU raped to shreads when lots of particles appear at once.

If he happens to have a really powerful GPU and not a CPU try this:

''gpu_particle_physics [0,1] - If set to 1, appears to enable the processing of particle physics on the GPU (graphics card). Since the particle system is already threaded (see e_particles_thread), this setting will likely only improve performance on systems with single-core CPUs and fast graphics cards (system).''
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 03:51:16 PM »
Just turn down particles quality?

I run medium, and it's the only setting I run this low for explicitly this sort of reason. The difference between medium and high in an intense firefight is about 15-20 fps on my unlocked 6950, and it doesn't really look much different.

He can't even run it on the lowest of settings. There is a cfg command to lower particles not sure if it work for this. I'll have a look in a bit.

He is not talking about the game being unplayable for him, due to the particle effects.  I think he has fairly high system specs. 

It is more the fact that it brings down everyone's framerate when the excrement hits the air-conditioner.  I know there are things we can change, but it is not
always obvious which will affect what, exactly.

Well I notice no difference in FPS at all, sure if you fire like 20+ lasers at once i might notice a small drop if i looked where they all hit but nothing to worry about in general....

And I already told him how to disable them or enable them. I couldn't find a way to just lower the particle count, but I know there is such an option. Just disabling them will make the game look more ugly, but will stop his FPS dropping like a stone...

*Edit* Crysis also seems to dump particle effects onto the CPU unless you tell it to use the GPU, so if you have a weak CPU (Slow clock speed under 3ghz and or dual core or lower) you are gonna get your CPU raped to shreads when lots of particles appear at once.

If he happens to have a really powerful GPU and not a CPU try this:

''gpu_particle_physics [0,1] - If set to 1, appears to enable the processing of particle physics on the GPU (graphics card). Since the particle system is already threaded (see e_particles_thread), this setting will likely only improve performance on systems with single-core CPUs and fast graphics cards (system).''

Sorry if this sounds silly but you put that where?
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 04:08:03 PM »



Goto the main crysis Directory and make a file called Autoexec.cfg

Then stick stuff in it like:

con_restricted=0       <---- Need this for everything to work
sys_physics_CPU=3   <-----Sets physics to work on a certain core. This is 4th core. If you have a dual core, stick it on 1 which is the 2nd core.





You get the idea. Obviously don't type in the arrow and the text after the arrow >.<


*Edit* Also telling us your PC specs, will greatly help, since most people here know roughly what PC can run what settings. So we can help you a tad more.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2011, 04:48:52 PM »
Cheers. I will have a good look.

Pc specs are:
CPU: intel core duo e8400 3.0ghz.
Ram: 8gig ddr3 1600
GPU: gigabyte gtx 460 super overclocked.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2011, 04:54:34 PM »
Cheers. I will have a good look.

Pc specs are:
CPU: intel core duo e8400 3.0ghz.
Ram: 8gig ddr3 1600
GPU: gigabyte gtx 460 super overclocked.

yeah your CPU is WAAAAAAY too weak :P No wonder :D

Stick physics onto second core (1) and that should help alot. Otherwise you might have to dump particles onto the GPU or just disable them (Disable probably better idea if you can live with it), it will GREATLY improve your FPS, since they are all done on CPU on stock settings.
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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 10:12:20 PM »
Put particles on the GPU, force physics to second core, and overclock the snot out of the CPU.

Even a bad E8400 will do 3.6GHz with a modest cooler.

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Re: option to remove laser burn particle
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2011, 10:37:44 PM »
Put particles on the GPU, force physics to second core, and overclock the snot out of the CPU.

Even a bad E8400 will do 3.6GHz with a modest cooler.

The 1st 2 I will do. But overclocking isn't something I am going to mess with just yet. I am happy with my machine as is.
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