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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2012, 07:12:20 AM »
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I am just trying to find out all possible problems.

So, one team would play 3 rounds with another team. If one team wins two rounds, the third is not played. So, no reason to create droplists consisting of shit to save units in a round you have already won.



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so you can have up to 3 BA in a single round if you bring an APC
Yep, looks like it. I want to hear a confirmation from xInVicTuSx though.

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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2012, 08:04:44 AM »




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so you can have up to 3 BA in a single round if you bring an APC
Yep, looks like it. I want to hear a confirmation from xInVicTuSx though.

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There are two exceptions to the No Repeating Variants rule.
Battle Armor have an endless supply and cost 5 tons each, however you may not use more than two in any single round (no you can't take 5 battle armor in the final round of a game you've already won  ::)). Thus conceivably you can take a maximum 6 BA in a single game of three rounds.
Also, APCs have an endless supply and cost 15 tons each. Only one is allowed per round however and the dedicated BA driver is allowed to fight. This does not stack with the other BA (you are thus allowed one other BA with the APC and of course neither of them can respawn from said APC once dead.)

So no, it's 2 per round.  But each round, of three matches, you can use up to 6 BA, or again 2/round.

So you can't buy a Fafnir and have 4 Battle Armor backing you up in a single round. :)

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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2012, 08:10:56 AM »
So you can't buy a Fafnir and have 4 Battle Armor backing you up in a single round. :)

Nor 2 Fafnir and 3 Battle Armor.

But you could 3 Fafnir and 2 Battle Armor (and an APC, as Terragent pointed out). ;D


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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2012, 08:15:08 AM »
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This does not stack with the other BA (you are thus allowed one other BA with the APC
What about this?

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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2012, 08:19:27 AM »
So you can't buy a Fafnir and have 4 Battle Armor backing you up in a single round. :)

Nor 2 Fafnir and 3 Battle Armor.

But you could 3 Fafnir and 2 Battle Armor (and an APC, as Terragent pointed out). ;D

Yes, 3 Faf, an APC and 2 BA is exactly 325 tons.  No problem.

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This does not stack with the other BA (you are thus allowed one other BA with the APC
What about this?

2 BA.  One driving, one riding, or not.  And both can fight, or drive the APC.


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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2012, 09:10:56 AM »
So is the APC a must have??????
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2012, 09:25:08 AM »
Lol.. ok.

APC is 15 tons and costs a BA, it does not stack with the other BA. Thus, you cannot have more than 2 BA in any single round. The BA that comes with the APC counts toward your ultimate limit. I said "do not stack" cause they dont stack on top of each other (thus having 3).

Set up minimum tonnage 250 on map!

Chill, you can use up to 325 tons, and who in their right mind will use less than 250?  If they do and win they are gods, and who are you to question the gods? ;)

I think what he means is deliberately using the most terrible possible thing on the first round to try and waste the good stuff the other team takes on the first round then pouring it on thick the other two rounds to insure a victory.

I don't think a minimum is required as this is stretching it a bit.

HOWEVER.


Upon seeing the 3 fafnir and 2 battle armor possibility and knowing how many Assault variants MWLL has.. I'm going to go ahead and change the max BA count to 1 instead of 2.

The original 2 was honestly meant for a best of 5 tournament where I wasn't entirely sure there would be enough variants to go around in the first place.
With best of 3, there will be a much more comfortable cap so BA spam will not really be "needed."


I will change the rules on the main page.

So from here on, there is a one BA per round limit. An APC is basically the same (you still only get one BA) but you can take it for the reloads if you need them.
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2012, 09:30:55 AM »
Given this situation, would it be acceptable for a team to pick five assets that add up to 310 (or less), pick five 'mech/tank/aero/vtol assets, and then have one of their pilots also take an APC and drive it as a noncombatant? Not that I think it'd be a very efficient way to play. ;)

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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2012, 09:32:19 AM »
No, the APC requires a dedicated BA driver, who may exit the APC and fight, but still counts as an asset all its own and may not pilot anything else.
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2012, 09:38:24 AM »
Sry but got no answer to my question,  do we NEED an APC? ore are we allowed to use also 5 Mechs and none APC?
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »
No you don't have to use an APC at all.

You may take 5 mechs or any combination you wish.

There is just only one BA allowed per round OR one APC allowed per round that comes with a BA. If you want it.

One thing everyone should be aware of now is that, as I stated in the rules, not every map that can support aircraft and vtol will have them allowed.

I will be announcing which maps that can support them will have them allowed soon.
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2012, 09:58:03 AM »
Thx at all Invictus, thats a clear answer  ;)
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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2012, 05:25:59 AM »
lol, my bad

I thought "does not stack" means "does not add to the total BA cap of 2" meaning it's a "free" BA  that doesn't take up a BA spot

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Re: 5v5 Tournament this March
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2012, 01:36:22 PM »
The sign ups have no closed.

The scheduling thread is up, all teams please consult it.

I will be contacting the two teams taking part in the qualifier round soon.

Also, would anyone like to sign up to record matches? :>
« Last Edit: February 27, 2012, 02:30:28 PM by xInVicTuSx »
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