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Mechtiquette
« on: February 07, 2017, 12:52:29 AM »
I've started patching together a short list of dos and donts, Is there a place for that on the wiki?
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 06:06:19 AM »
dont be an asfhole or a vtroll: everyone knows that flying assets are broken, the developers have even said that openly. If you use ASFs or VTOLs, everyone will hate you. Don't use flying assets.

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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 05:04:45 PM »
DO: show good gamesmanship - a simple 'gg/good game' at the end of a match goes a long way. Saying 'gf', 'gk' or 'gs' (good fight/kill/shot respectively) after a battle with another player also helps.

DON'T: gloat when you win. You may earn some payback later on in the match, in the form of a firebombing.

DO: talk with your team, especially in TC games. Using teamchat to mention contact with opposing units or where they may be going is helpful, while taking little time and effort on your part.

DON'T: complain about your team, especially if you've made no effort to work with them.

DO: switch sides in a match if one team is severely understrength. This tends to occur when a server is below half capacity and a player or two from one team disconnect.

DON'T: afk for extended periods of time (>2 minutes) during a match, especially if the server's full.

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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 06:49:28 PM »
Mechtiquette
Mechwarrior do's and dont's
(Public match general combat behavior guidelines)

Following actions are not sanctioned outside the regular game-flow (the do's):

  • To die and to re-spawn often (this is the more usual, the newer a player is to this game)
  • Base stomping or the opposite, base camping
  • Team switch (usually if teams become too unbalanced, to avoid match to end too soon, a higher ranked and a lower ranked player switch places on opposing teams)
  • To Snipe camp/LRM camp (exploiting excessive weapon range)
  • Air trolling/Ballooning ("VTROLL") (excessively taking advantage of air vs surface units)
  • Kill stealing (delivering a decisive last blow, or even joining an ongoing duel)
  • Questioning team balance due to excessive ticket bleed in early game (first 15 minutes)
  • Offering a significantly higher class asset to an lower rank team mate


Following actions are not recommended, and players are strongly advised to avoid them (the dont's)

  • being AFK without noting so (going to spectator lore, or changing nick to include AFK)
  • uncalled for team kills - 5 in a row might (and will) lead to server ban
  • capturing excessive bases during public matches is considered fun deprivation for the opposing side
  • asking a teammate with a significantly higher class to switch assets
  • extensive non-game related chatting (if players mind to object to it)
  • non-called-for asset wasting - kill feeding and ticket bleeding in TC matches
  • loosing-team lower_rank_player team-switching ("cowardice")

Besides this guidelines, there are general guides for certain game roles, Elemental/Longinus battle armor (referred to as BA), General public match survival guides, and the like. Those looking further improvement beyond this basic guidelines are advised to search the forums or the (soon to be updated) wiki.

There is also an organized event called Chaos March that is free to apply - besides obvious an internet connection, prerequisites are:
  • general understanding of English language,
  • TeamSpeak3 client software (non related to our community)
  • a working installation of MW:LL (currently 0.8.2) and
  • to be accessible at weekends around 2100 GMT and online on both TS3 and MW:LL.
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 06:52:15 PM »
DO: show good gamesmanship - a simple 'gg/good game' at the end of a match goes a long way. Saying 'gf', 'gk' or 'gs' (good fight/kill/shot respectively) after a battle with another player also helps.
Gay
DON'T: gloat when you win. You may earn some payback later on in the match, in the form of a firebombing.
Utter bollocks.

DO: talk with your team, especially in TC games. Using teamchat to mention contact with opposing units or where they may be going is helpful, while taking little time and effort on your part.
Common sense, but the most important thing said so far.

DON'T: complain about your team, especially if you've made no effort to work with them.
Gay


DO: switch sides in a match if one team is severely understrength. This tends to occur when a server is below half capacity and a player or two from one team disconnect.
Common sense again.

DON'T: afk for extended periods of time (>2 minutes) during a match, especially if the server's full.

Yeah, much better to disconnect and lose your place in the server  ::)

The rules are pretty clear guys.

  • Don't be a dick
  • CJW is best clan

That's all you need really unless you're doing some sort of wanky tournament play.

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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 06:54:52 PM »
Quote from: GnomeKing
Mechtiquette :
The OK and BAD for Public-matches & general Mechwarrior combat behaviour.

The following actions while accepted as OK situations that can occur naturally during the normal flow of games, are considered to be BAD if they occur repeatedly because they are detrimental to overall player enjoyment. Repeated deliberate offenses could lead to server kicks or bans.
1. To die/re-spawn continually is BAD.
2. Base-stomping and base-camping the main (non-capture-able) enemy spawn base, and preventing players from exiting the main spawn area is BAD (except perhaps during final minutes of a match, or if all the enemy stay hidden in there).
3. Team switching once match is joined is generally BAD, unless it is to balance the team numbers (for example due to disconnects), or if skill/points balance is so far out that an experienced player moves to the weaker side for the sake of a more enjoyable game.
4. Excessive Snipe-camping/LRM-camping, when it prevents an enjoyable game is BAD.
5. Air trolling/Ballooning ("VTROLL"), when it prevents an enjoyable game is BAD.
6. Excessive base-captures without combat, when it prevents an enjoyable game (e.g. chasing packs of harassers around a large map) is BAD.
7. Deliberate Kill-stealing is BAD.
8. Intervening in any formal Duel is BAD.
9. Excessively questioning team balance due to ticket bleed in early game (e.g. first 15 minutes), or when a team is losing at any point in a reasonably balanced game, is BAD (and undignified).
10. Deliberately upsetting match balance by un-fairly exploiting game mechanics, or any other disruptive actions which prevent an enjoyable game, are all BAD.
11. Rage-quitting is OK - just Childish. Learn to Win or Lose with Dignity.

Following actions are never OK, and are defined by broader social/on-line etiquette as BAD. They could lead to rapid server kicks or bans (and lack of friends!);
1. Repeatedly being AFK without noting so (go to spectator mode, change nickname to include AFK, or communicate with your team)
2. Deliberately killing your own teammates.
3. Repeatedly bugging teammates with questions, requests for cbills, to asset switch etc. (if other players object).
4. Extensive non-game related chat, or excessive and deliberate offensive language (if other players object to it).
5. Repeated, pointless, ‘kamikaze’ asset wasting (i.e. kill-feeding and ticket-bleeding in TC matches)
6. Lower ranking players switching from losing team to winning team during matches ("cowardice").
7. ‘Griefing’, including new-player harassment and any other form of Bullying will also not be tolerated.
Help new players, play Hard But Fair, keep MWLL enjoyable – and you will find a fun, friendly community!

There are also general guides for certain game roles, for example Elemental/Longinus battle-armor (referred to as BA), VTOL, Long Tom, public match survival guides, and of course Mech Lore. Those looking further information are advised to search the forums or the (soon to be updated) wiki.


The community has also run a campaign/competition event ‘Chaos March’ for several years. Faction leaders take part in larger ongoing strategic maps and assign pilots/assets for pre-organised matches using customised game rules and close tactical communication. As well as clans/units taking part in a particular match, any other player may also join in, with limits imposed by the Supervisors and Server.
Listening to instructions is essential, but there is no requirement for individual players to use a microphone in ChaosMarch– the in-game text communication and headphones are fine. TeamSpeak3 is used co-ordinate the teams during matches, with Commanders assigning assets to players before the match and issuing combat orders.
The prerequisites to take part in ChaosMarch are:
• General understanding of English language (or at least the Drop Commander to communicate with Supervisor and other Commanders, if for example the remainder of the team is non-English speaking).
• Reliable connection to hosting Server, because disconnects can severely impact game play.
• TeamSpeak3 client software (3rd party), @ mwll.mwmaster.net
• a working installation of MW:LL (currently 0.8.2).
• to be accessible at weekends around 2100 GMT and online on both TS3 and MW:LL.
The ChaosMarch community is currently broadly based in the USA, RUS, EU and UK, but welcomes players/units from everywhere (language and time-zones permitting), encourages participation at all ability levels, and would be happy to look at events to suite other time-zones.

GnomeKing is an native English speaker :), Kind thanks to him for helping this :)

and @Bill hey buddy ;)
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 06:56:22 PM »
there is also the less known:
 :oMarchtiquette :o
care to know?
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 07:01:40 PM »
That list uses too many specific terms and talks in double speak. It also doesn't apply to every server.

Essentially if there really is such a thing needed (and I really don't feel there is) it should go like this

  • Read the server rules
  • Don't be a dick
  • Repeated dickery will almost certainly result in a ban

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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 08:48:41 PM »
The rules are pretty clear guys.

  • Don't be a dick
  • CJW is best clan

That's all you need really unless you're doing some sort of wanky tournament play.

You would say those lies :P

Also this is the oldest and sourest type of post I've seen in a while, and debating these points historically has caused some of the best raeg i've ever seen on a forum.

Bill is basically correct on the don't be a dick and talk to your team.

but really CSF is best clan.
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 10:32:55 PM »
You asked for it:
Marchtiquette
(a bit rusty and outdated, but mostly still in effect)
Quote from: Warlord Kentax
Keep the comms clear. If you have to talk about unrelated things, please use the in game text chat.

Try to avoid killing yourself or others before the match begins.

Listen to your drop commander. Do what the drop commander says, when the drop commander says. Inform your drop commander immediately if you are going to do something that has not been ordered. If the drop commander objects to this return to obeying their orders.

The drop commander needs to be in the game, no commanding while spectating, it is dishonest and unfair and ruins the immersion of the game.

In the event that anyone dies (drop commander included) please be quiet, dead people can't talk. Don’t give away critical information while dead.

If you die, don’t respawn unless you are a dedicated BA..

When a drop commander dies, command should be assumed by an experienced pilot currently alive in the drop. First to call in will take over.

Run your radar passive unless told to do otherwise.

Don’t leave the hangar or takeoff from the runway until both teams or the drop supervisor says “Go.”

If you are speaking English in the game, make sure to call out the grid coordinates using the NATO Phonetic Alphabet

Callsign then Number

Examples:
AlphaOne
BravoTwo
CharlieThree
DeltaFour
EchoFive
FoxtrotSix
GolfSeven
HotelEight
IndiaNine
JulietTen
KiloEleven

Call out the names of targets if possible and call out the variant of that asset if known, make sure to use the callsigns for the variant names.

Examples:
RavenPrime
RavenAlpha
RavenBravo
RavenCharlie
RavenDelta
RavenEcho
HawkmothFoxtrot

Example: “Contact, Echo Five, Key Seven”
Often, grid coordinates are not accurate enough so use the keypad system to call out where the target is. The keypad system is ordered the same as on a keyboard, not the same as on a telephone. It looks like the table below.
789
456
123
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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 04:34:40 PM »
but really CSF is best clan.

The VC lady is talking to you Ressk.


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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2017, 07:32:00 PM »
but really CSF is best clan.

The VC lady is talking to you Ressk.

Me ruv U Wrong Time Birr

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Re: Mechtiquette
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2017, 07:36:28 PM »
You have been poorly informed about the going of the war.