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What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« on: January 06, 2009, 03:14:51 PM »
Quick question for all you hardcore Mecha fans out there. What would basic training be like in the Clans? Did they even have basic training? Is there a book that talks about the training process? I realize they talk about it a bit in Phelan Kell's story but im curious if there is more fiction on it.

If there isnt would someone enlighten me on what they think it would be like?

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 04:05:45 PM »
This Blurb might help you:

http://www.kerensky.ultraforce.org/index.html

**sorry, just noticed, Hit Clans, then Clan Society as Panzerbob says**

I've also read that when they're not forcing them to duel with toothpicks in some sandy pit, some Clans raise their Sibko's within "normal" nuclear style families, with mother and father figures, to keep them from going totally tonto, some clans put high focus on the warriors not only developing their martial skills but also learning artistic skills or focusing on their "soul", so I think it varies.

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 04:17:15 PM »
There is a small section on the Warrior caste from that site's Clan section.  In essence, all warriors are part of a sibko and are trained from the earliest age.  For freebirth warriors in garrison or reservist roles I assume there is some form of basic training that would be very akin to what is in place today.

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 05:03:35 PM »
all warriors are part of a sibko and are trained from the earliest age. 

Sibko really is like clanner boot camp then?

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 05:18:31 PM »
you cross bootcamp with cinder-garden/all stages of school and, yeah, pretty much . .
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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 05:35:39 PM »
you cross bootcamp with cinder-garden/all stages of school and, yeah, pretty much . .

Isn't that military school?

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 05:59:29 PM »
I believe it is a shortened/mangled version of Sibling Company.  Basically, a single batch of genetically produced warriors are all lumped together into their training cadre, or sibko, from birth all the way to their final determination.  It is their whole life, not just a camp.  At any point during this time should a sibko member fail to meet the specified goals they are washed out and placed into another caste based upon their abilities.

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 09:07:35 PM »
I believe the book Way of the Clans covers it pretty well IMO.

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 11:09:04 PM »
i'm actually in the middle of an RP story about this, though mine goes off the rails of the 'tradition' clan sibko thing.

Trueborn warriors are born as phenotypes; mechwarrior, aerospace, elemental; though I belive that a cadet can change between them if their original training does not suit them. I think it was Bjorn Jorgenson, the Ghost Bear Khan, was born an elemental, but ended up becoming an aerospace pilot.
They are then placed in a créche, like kindergarten, where they are taught to read and swim and all that good stuff. The teachers at this stage are probably warriors who were considered a little too 'soft' for active duty.
Sibkos vary from clan to clan, some have specialised, small groups of the same phenotype, 20 or so cadets, others have large, mixed phenotype sibkos that can be up to 100 cadets.
Warriors are trained from birth and mature faster than children from other castes.
If they are injured or found unsuitable, they are dropped from their sibko to a lower caste, mechwarriors and aerospace go to scientist or tech, elementals usually to labour caste. This keeps the cadets motivated, as they are constantly bombarded with the 'might makes right; the warrior caste is the epitome of clan society' doctrine.
Training is harsh, because the Clans only want the best of the best, nothing else will do. This often results in physical or mental damage.
Instructors are usually solhama, older warriors, retired from the front lines. They hate their jobs and they hate their cadets.
Not entirely sure of the age of their Trial of Position for warrior, I think it was 20. Most clans only allow 1 trial, exceptional cases may warrant a second trial; for example, Smoke Jaguar allowed 2nd trials of cadets when they started to run low on capable warriors.
Even after survivng training and their trial, they may not end up in a glorius front-line unit, they may end up as second-line garrison troops,  tankers, foot troops or police; so there is a lot of drive to excel.
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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 10:36:35 AM »
i'm actually in the middle of an RP story about this, though mine goes off the rails of the 'tradition' clan sibko thing.

Trueborn warriors are born as phenotypes; mechwarrior, aerospace, elemental; though I belive that a cadet can change between them if their original training does not suit them. I think it was Bjorn Jorgenson, the Ghost Bear Khan, was born an elemental, but ended up becoming an aerospace pilot.
They are then placed in a créche, like kindergarten, where they are taught to read and swim and all that good stuff. The teachers at this stage are probably warriors who were considered a little too 'soft' for active duty.
Sibkos vary from clan to clan, some have specialised, small groups of the same phenotype, 20 or so cadets, others have large, mixed phenotype sibkos that can be up to 100 cadets.
Warriors are trained from birth and mature faster than children from other castes.
If they are injured or found unsuitable, they are dropped from their sibko to a lower caste, mechwarriors and aerospace go to scientist or tech, elementals usually to labour caste. This keeps the cadets motivated, as they are constantly bombarded with the 'might makes right; the warrior caste is the epitome of clan society' doctrine.
Training is harsh, because the Clans only want the best of the best, nothing else will do. This often results in physical or mental damage.
Instructors are usually solhama, older warriors, retired from the front lines. They hate their jobs and they hate their cadets.
Not entirely sure of the age of their Trial of Position for warrior, I think it was 20. Most clans only allow 1 trial, exceptional cases may warrant a second trial; for example, Smoke Jaguar allowed 2nd trials of cadets when they started to run low on capable warriors.
Even after survivng training and their trial, they may not end up in a glorius front-line unit, they may end up as second-line garrison troops,  tankers, foot troops or police; so there is a lot of drive to excel.

Ok this is perfect! Great explanation and very interesting as far as im concerned could make for some interesting stories.
Exactly what i wanted.

Now Panzer mentioned a book, is the book "Way of the Clans" a story or is it more of a campaign for RP pen and paper stuff?

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 04:00:14 PM »
Aurora mentioned it and it is a book as mentioned by Perigren. (First book under the Classic BattleTech listing.)

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 07:04:36 PM »
Way of the Clans is a novel by Robert Thurston, it's the first book of the Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy, which has Aidan Pryde as it's main character.
It introduces him moving to the 2nd stage of training, where he meets his instructor, Joanna, and she hates him.
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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 07:35:53 PM »
...she hates him.

She hated everyone and everything.  Good series to read.  I'll have to dig through my collection and get those out.

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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 08:55:10 PM »
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Re: What would Clan Basic Training be like?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 10:05:08 PM »
In Mech2 you were in the last stage of training and trialed to see where you'd fit into the clan.  That is by no means a measure of what a clan sibko went through (although it is a small measure).  Clan upbringing was the harshest upbringing anyone could endure. 

As Kiriko (hey buddy) stated it starts from the tube.  Clanners build a family network from their sibkin to gain the support they need to mature.  Clanners are bread to be independent and think for themselves however.  Their moral fiber comes from the clan honor system.  The whole doctrine boils down to the strongest lead, or simplified, might makes right.
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