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Offline jasper_ward

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MW:LL AI
« on: March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM »
over at moddb I noticed this:http://www.moddb.com/news/co-op-announcement
does this mean that bots are a possibility?

they are claiming that 100 ai's can be in game without lag,
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units and that it is for crysis wars, but isn't cryengine2 still the same engine?

thanks ahead of time for any answers
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 07:25:35 AM »
Short answer: No.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 10:19:45 AM »
Think previously stated no bots, the only thing AI controlled will be base turrets.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 12:30:47 PM »
Quote from: jasper_ward on March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units

You make this sound like it's nothing. Let me assure you - it is a major project. We've been researching AI support for quite a while, more in regards to a singleplayer campaign than co-op gameplay though, but still. At some point we'd like to dig deeper into AI support, but for now it's not our agenda - and will not be there for upcoming beta or full release.
It's simply a matter of limited ressources that are needed elsewhere at this time.

Hope this answers your question.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 07:22:20 PM »
Quote from: AoP on March 30, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: jasper_ward on March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units

You make this sound like it's nothing. Let me assure you - it is a major project. We've been researching AI support for quite a while, more in regards to a singleplayer campaign than co-op gameplay though, but still. At some point we'd like to dig deeper into AI support, but for now it's not our agenda - and will not be there for upcoming beta or full release.
It's simply a matter of limited ressources that are needed elsewhere at this time.

Hope this answers your question.

Translation:

We had to screw with the engine so badly that the AI doesn't know wtf is going on anymore, and we don't have time to fix it now.
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Offline Sean Lang "Phil"

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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 07:29:25 PM »
Actually I think its due to what AoP just posted:

Quote from: AoP on March 30, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: jasper_ward on March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units

You make this sound like it's nothing. Let me assure you - it is a major project. We've been researching AI support for quite a while, more in regards to a singleplayer campaign than co-op gameplay though, but still. At some point we'd like to dig deeper into AI support, but for now it's not our agenda - and will not be there for upcoming beta or full release.
It's simply a matter of limited ressources that are needed elsewhere at this time.

Hope this answers your question.

It isn't like you can just *insert* an AI here and there, it seems the work and procedures are very time consuming. So like he said, no AI as of right now, but it is always an idea for the future.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 07:45:48 PM »
Quote from: Diablo48 on March 30, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: AoP on March 30, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: jasper_ward on March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units

You make this sound like it's nothing. Let me assure you - it is a major project. We've been researching AI support for quite a while, more in regards to a singleplayer campaign than co-op gameplay though, but still. At some point we'd like to dig deeper into AI support, but for now it's not our agenda - and will not be there for upcoming beta or full release.
It's simply a matter of limited ressources that are needed elsewhere at this time.

Hope this answers your question.

Translation:

We had to screw with the engine so badly that the AI doesn't know wtf is going on anymore, and we don't have time to fix it now.

Translation of Incorrect Translation:
Building an AI from scratch to work with an entity never meant to exist is hard and time consuming.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 08:15:39 PM »
Quote from: Diablo48 on March 30, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: AoP on March 30, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: jasper_ward on March 30, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
I understand they'd have to be adapted to the new units

You make this sound like it's nothing. Let me assure you - it is a major project. We've been researching AI support for quite a while, more in regards to a singleplayer campaign than co-op gameplay though, but still. At some point we'd like to dig deeper into AI support, but for now it's not our agenda - and will not be there for upcoming beta or full release.
It's simply a matter of limited ressources that are needed elsewhere at this time.

Hope this answers your question.

Translation:

We had to screw with the engine so badly that the AI doesn't know wtf is going on anymore, and we don't have time to fix it now.

I hope you're not earning your money with translations. Read what Defender wrote if you're actually interested in the truth.
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Offline Diablo48

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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 08:35:56 PM »
I was referring to the single player AI which if I remember correctly got horribly confused by the MWLL assets.  Regardless, the point I was trying to make was that you need a full overhaul of the Crysis AI or a completely new one to make it work with the new assets.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 11:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Diablo48 on March 30, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
I was referring to the single player AI which if I remember correctly got horribly confused by the MWLL assets.  Regardless, the point I was trying to make was that you need a full overhaul of the Crysis AI or a completely new one to make it work with the new assets.

Exactly, I don't even want stupid AI anyways, I would be more happy without it.
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Offline FatalExtinction

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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 04:50:50 AM »
Well sadly as it may seem i've never been good at online for PC games,
 I try but its either lag or my skills, but anyway having AI would be nice, i'm not looking
a complete campaign but more like multiplayer with bots. But hey thats just me.
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 05:32:51 AM »
I say: "anything that slows down release and development of the mod is disposable." Personally I will just be happy to play Multiplayer when the mod is released. If they ever manage to make a single player campaign, for me it will be a "hey, cool" moment but I would still devote alot more time to multiplayer and league play. (once some leagues are set up that is.)

AI would be great for a couple for thing, (like machinima and costum campaigns.) But i would like to be playing along time before they would finish the AI. (Except for base turrets, they are to handy not to have.)
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 09:09:16 PM »
He guys I switched from PC to Mac. Is there any way to play on the Mac?
If not, what do I have to do to bring a PC up to speed?
I have Mercs and the IS Clan disks.
What specs for a PC do I need?
BTW Sorry if this is the wrong thread, where can I go for this info?

Fek315...OUT!
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 09:14:09 PM »
get boot camp and copy of windows XP
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Re: MW:LL AI
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 11:34:09 PM »
Quote from: fek315 on March 31, 2009, 09:09:16 PM
He guys I switched from PC to Mac. Is there any way to play on the Mac?
If not, what do I have to do to bring a PC up to speed?
I have Mercs and the IS Clan disks.
What specs for a PC do I need?
BTW Sorry if this is the wrong thread, where can I go for this info?

Fek315...OUT!
I'm not really sure what you mean, but I'll try to answer:

This mod is for Crysis, not for Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries.
That means you need a Crysis DVD, not Mercs CDs.
And it hasn't been relesed yet, so you can't play it.
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