Saitek X-52

[CHHš Firestorm]

Anyone here use a Saitek X-52 Joystick?  I'm trying to set mine up for MW4 Mercs, but MW4 only seems to recognize a few of the buttons, and won't accept input from the rest. I tried making a profile using the SD6 Profiling software, but MW4 doesn't seem to accept the macros, it uses the default controls for joystick instead. Help?

[DigitalStef]

I don't have one, but this is wrong section i think... either other gaming or tech forum would be a better place...

[Fokker1138]

It recognized all the buttons on my X45.  I'm not sure if the X52 uses the same configuration software. 

[Cujo]

pretty sure my brother fully mapped his X52 back in the day, with the profile software.  Pretty sure that included the throttle buttons as well.

[=]FC[=Striker]

I have the same issue. I think the fix is downloading the older software and driver. I know the old software and driver used to work, so use the disk that came with it if it is not a recent purchase. If you did just buy it then check the Saitek website for the old driver, if you don't find it in regular downloads area then hit up their forums.

Striker

[Barbaric Soul]

I use the x52 for MW4 mercs. One thing I have to do when I set up my controller is after I get done setting it up in the profiler, I then have to go into the options for mercs and assign the controls though the stick. Contact me on MSN if you or anyone else needs help with that, my addy is bitememech@aol.com

BTW, I use the newer version 2.0 software

[CHHš Firestorm]

I think the problem is this newer software I'm using for it. I'll dig out the cd it came with and re-install the drivers and profiler.

[CHHš Firestorm]

I use the x52 for MW4 mercs. One thing I have to do when I set up my controller is after I get done setting it up in the profiler, I then have to go into the options for mercs and assign the controls though the stick. Contact me on MSN if you or anyone else needs help with that, my addy is bitememech@aol.com

BTW, I use the newer version 2.0 software

See, I tried to set up the joystick controls within MW4 Mercs, but it won't recognize input from all the buttons. Only the trigger, one of the hats, and like 2 other buttons. Again, I'll re-install the software and see what happens.

[Barbaric Soul]

I use the x52 for MW4 mercs. One thing I have to do when I set up my controller is after I get done setting it up in the profiler, I then have to go into the options for mercs and assign the controls though the stick. Contact me on MSN if you or anyone else needs help with that, my addy is bitememech@aol.com

BTW, I use the newer version 2.0 software

See, I tried to set up the joystick controls within MW4 Mercs, but it won't recognize input from all the buttons. Only the trigger, one of the hats, and like 2 other buttons. Again, I'll re-install the software and see what happens.

I see what the problem is then. When you set up the controls in MW, you need to set up the keyboard controls, not the stick controls. Remember, when you set up your stick with the saitek profiler, your slaving keyboard controls to the joystick.

Also, another tip for you. When your setting the controls for the two weapon groups on the trigger, set the second group first(trigger pulled all the way), then set the first group(trigger puller halfway). If you set the first group first, you'll cancel that out when you go to set the 2nd group as when you pull the trigger, it'll first register the keystroke you set to the first group before registering the keystroke for the second group. You'll understand excatly what I mean when you do it.

[CHHš Firestorm]

I use the x52 for MW4 mercs. One thing I have to do when I set up my controller is after I get done setting it up in the profiler, I then have to go into the options for mercs and assign the controls though the stick. Contact me on MSN if you or anyone else needs help with that, my addy is bitememech@aol.com

BTW, I use the newer version 2.0 software

See, I tried to set up the joystick controls within MW4 Mercs, but it won't recognize input from all the buttons. Only the trigger, one of the hats, and like 2 other buttons. Again, I'll re-install the software and see what happens.

I see what the problem is then. When you set up the controls in MW, you need to set up the keyboard controls, not the stick controls. Remember, when you set up your stick with the saitek profiler, your slaving keyboard controls to the joystick.

Also, another tip for you. When your setting the controls for the two weapon groups on the trigger, set the second group first(trigger pulled all the way), then set the first group(trigger puller halfway). If you set the first group first, you'll cancel that out when you go to set the 2nd group as when you pull the trigger, it'll first register the keystroke you set to the first group before registering the keystroke for the second group. You'll understand excatly what I mean when you do it.

Prior to attempting to set up the joystick controls in Mercs, I tried making a profile for the joystick. I mapped a few of the default keyboard controls to the joystick and went to test it. For example, I set Fire Group 1 to the main trigger, I loaded up an Instant Action battle, then when the game started, I pulled the trigger and it opens the zoom window. The zoom window is set to the trigger in the default joystick controls for Mercs. What seems to be happening is that the joystick controls in Mercs was overriding the profile. I was then going to try clearing all the default assignments for the joystick in Mercs, but it doesn't seem possible to clear keys.

Anyways, I just re-installed the drivers and software for the joystick. I'm going to try profiling it again. I'll be back in a few minutes.


*edit* OK, now I'm not sure what happened. I re-installed the drivers and software. I tried making a new profile. When I clicked the "Profile Now" button, a message popped up: "MW4.dat does not contain a profile for this device.  The device has not been profiled.". I appear to have broken it somehow. This joystick is so damn complicated sometimes...

[CHHš Firestorm]

I'm going to re-install the new drivers and software. At least I could load profiles with the new one.

[=]FC[=Striker]

Well if you don't have a .dat file then it won't load one up. You have to remember that the .dat file is the old file and they changed it to a different file extension for the new software. Did you try to just not load a profile and see if it was registering in game? This was the desired effect, so if it does work in game then no sense in changing the software again.

Striker

[CHHš Firestorm]

I installed the newest software and drivers from the Saitek website. I loaded up my profile for Mercs. The profile seems to work, except that well, i'll give you an example: On my profile, for testing purposes, I set Num 0 (Toggle Zoom Window by default) to Fire C on the joystick. Looking at the default Joystick controls in Mercs, I see that Zoom Window is set to "Button 2". I loaded up a game to test the profile, I pushed Fire C and the Zoom window came up (also notice that Fire C does not have a default assignment in Mercs) so that works, then I pulled the trigger (which is set to Fire Group 1) and it opened the zoom window again. What seems to be happening is that Mercs is overriding the profile's settings when the button I push already has an assignment by default. If there was a way to clear the defaults for joystick in Mercs and leave them blank, this wouldn't be a problem. But I haven't found a way to clear them. I had a profile working with this joystick on Mercs before, about two years ago, but I'm not sure how I got it working back then. I've re-formatted the computer since then.

[Duper]

I went through all this several months ago prepping for a LAN. You're stuck.  This is a well known issue and there is no real fix. MW is a crusty POS software that only likes MS hardware (and then sometimes it's questionable)  I've had nothing but issues with Siatek sticks and Mech4. The X52 has been the worst.

Mind you, this is the only game I've had issues like this with the X52. In general, I avoid the profiler software. BUT, you might be able to program the stick via keystroke assignements, but for the amount  of time I spend playing Mech4, it's not worth the couple hours it would take.

Go in and assign single keystrokes to every command you want to use and write them down.  Then go into the profiler software (make sure you have ALL the Siatek software installed. Don't skip Any of it) and program those keystrokes to buttons on the stick and hotas. Remember to use the 3 level variant.  The X52 progamming capability is complex and robust. If you understand how to use all the functons, you should be able to get it to work with most anything.

For myself, I've tried all the "fixes" and various software updates and nothing got M4 to see more than about 4 or 5 buttons on the X52 set.

But, like I said, I'm not willing to put THAT much effort into programming a piece of hardware when I typically reinstall windows every 14 months or so and when it won't be used that often.

[candun]

this topic is a little old but i just got a x52 and was having problems setting it up , u have to make use of the few buttons that work, i just used the trigger u have to go thru and clear out preprogramed buttons by reasigning them to trigger to leave just the stock keyboard commands ,then u have to go thru and change the double assigned commands like zoom window it uses nomber0 witch is a command for a trigger to i think , as far as the drivers go i HAD to install the drivers from disk then go to saitek and get updated driver and program . make sure to get the right program 1 is for a bunch of saitek devices other is for just controler.( sst software 32_6_6_6_9)