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Offline =KoS= Eldragon

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »
A Battletech TV Series could be a success, but it just needs good production values. E.g. Hollywood thought comic book movies were guaranteed money losers until X-Men came along. If Battlestar Galactica could make money, so could a Battletech TV series.

Of course, if there ever was a motion picture, you can be sure all the back story to the BTech universe would be trashed. Expect to see Clanners so genetically engineered they may as well be aliens. Kai Allard-Liao is a sniveling dork with a supermodel girlfriend, and Hanse Davion's main advisor is Grima Wormtongue... oh, and all mechs are LAMs.

So as much as I would LOVE to see Band of Brothers set in the 31st century with giant robots, a part of me thinks perhaps its best if its never made.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2009, 09:55:38 PM »
What would be better is a small group who would make a higher production value of machinima. This would consist of excellent animators, passable voice acting and at least an interesting overarching plot. This way they can work the property up..

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2009, 03:55:19 AM »
There are lost of books already


I think a lot of people have a secret desire for a feature mech film rising up in them for quite some time now. It would be good to come out of the closet to the world with how awesome our nerdy fetish really is. It would have to be, you know, actually good tho, and not the crappy adaptation movies usually are of these kinds of things.
This can become a reality, but for that to happen, we'll need a block buster movie based on a video game to open up the market.

For a long time movies based on comic books were horrible and low budget, then Spiderman came out, and now there's a new comic book movie every few months. Same goes for movies based on Saturday morning cartoons, although Ninja Turtles 1/2/3 were bad ass, the market didn't really open up until recently with Transformers. Even so, most cartoons have a comic book series as well, so I guess they're pretty much the same. /nerdoff
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Movies based on games have a horrible track record and no studios want to pick them up. I hate to envoke these 3 letters on the forums of a TRUE game, a MECH game, but my prediction is that if the WoW movie does good, then other game movies will follow. First they need to prove they can base a movie on a game and make it serious and interesting, and not just have lame inside jokes througout the entire movie. If any game based movie is going to blast open the market and blaze a trail, it'll be WoW.





There are already video game movies just about on a par with the quality of the last two Batman movies, lost of them in fact. Max Payne, Doom, and FF. Perhaps the most notable of these movies were Silent Hill, Hitman, Resident Evil, Street Fighter and of course Mortal Combat. Those movies were all amazing in their own rite and there are more.  Not Doom tho, that sucked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games

Take a look at the movies in production or preproduction. Some of those movies could be fapping amazing. Duke Nukem? RU SRIS? That would be fapping hilarious! I would actually have to say that more movies based on games are more successful than those based on comics in terms of accurate adaptation and over all entertainment. I think Mortal Combat did better and is a more popular movie than anything based on something from Marvel.

Movies based on games have been some of the very best movies made over the last decade. We are way past needing a break through movie for video games. I also seem to recall  RE bringing in very large sums of money, SH did very well and Hitman was a box office #1 I think also.


WoW is fapping retarded and any movie about it is going to be absolutely fapping moronic. Will it actually do well, perhaps but that wont mean its actually a good movie. Its being directed by the guy who did Spider-Man and those movies were fapping terrible and nothing like the comic. I liked the first one when it came out but it got way to stupid. All the Marvel movies have more or less been shit adaptations. The only reason they are making this heaping pile of bile into a movie is so they can play on its popularity. The game has nothing special that is even remotely worth making a movie about. Its a stupid generic fantasy cluster fapp.


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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2009, 06:47:01 AM »
All the Marvel movies have more or less been shit adaptations.
the exception to the marvel movie suckage being Ironman? that was a kickass movie.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2009, 06:53:44 AM »
All the Marvel movies have more or less been shit adaptations.
the exception to the marvel movie suckage being Ironman? that was a kickass movie.

I knew some one would say that. it was good but not as good as the comic was

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2009, 10:07:09 AM »
I think Mortal Combat did better and is a more popular movie than anything based on something from Marvel.

Mortal Combat (1995) World Wide Total Gross: $122,195,920 (At 2002 dollar value: $149,079,022)

Spider Man I (2002) World Wide Total Gross:  $821,708,551

Me thinks your estimates are a weee bit off.

Even if you consider the weakening of the American dollar from 1995 (MK) to 2002 (SPI) at 22%, Spiderman still kicked the bejebus out of Mortal Combat in the Box Office by 551%.


fyi Iron man (2008) only totaled $585,133,287 world wide vs SPI $969,616,090 in 2008 US dollar value. (18% adjustment from 2002 - 2008)
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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2009, 11:03:02 AM »
hmm, when i think on movies based on games i will get a bit scared. the best in this genre is still hitman. max payne was ok, but not a great movie. resident evil was also funny. but when i think to farcry or blood rayne then i will get sick.
comicmovies were sometimes much better then gamemovies. one of the best sin city.
i will hope if oneday a mechwarrior movie will come out, then just with a good director.
if a guy like uwe boll get the rights for it, then i will send him all my dead pets of my garden !!!


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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2009, 11:14:34 AM »
If Battletech is to be made into some visual media, then mini-series is perhaps the way to go AND if you'd want it to stay true to the Battletech lore, ie not disappoint the fans.
For that it would need the Btech creators to be heavily involved, otherwise it would end up like Eldragon described me thinks.

I myself dread the thought that Uwe Boll would obtain the movie rights to Battletech or its turned into an anime series...although latter would probably satisfy the forum-patrons at the official Battletech forums.





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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2009, 11:44:10 AM »
If Battletech is to be made into some visual media, then mini-series is perhaps the way to go
That is an interesting idea..They could basically make a miniseries of about 9 episodes that tell the story of (insert faction here) fighting a campaign on (insert planet name here)

lol  :P

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2009, 02:00:22 PM »
Lets face it, it's not about wether or not it was shit or a good film.  It is the fact if it made money or not.

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I myself dread the thought that Uwe Boll would obtain the movie rights to Battletech or its turned into an anime series..

I'd seriously think about assassination of Uwe Boll if he did.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2009, 06:12:22 AM »
hmm, when i think on movies based on games i will get a bit scared. the best in this genre is still hitman. max payne was ok, but not a great movie. resident evil was also funny. but when i think to farcry or blood rayne then i will get sick.
comicmovies were sometimes much better then gamemovies. one of the best sin city.
i will hope if oneday a mechwarrior movie will come out, then just with a good director.
if a guy like uwe boll get the rights for it, then i will send him all my dead pets of my garden !!!

The only reason SS was so good is because of Frank Miller. And i still dont give a shit about the spider-man movies. Video games are WAY past the point of needing a break through hit.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2009, 06:32:44 AM »
All the Marvel movies have more or less been shit adaptations.
the exception to the marvel movie suckage being Ironman? that was a kickass movie.

I knew some one would say that. it was good but not as good as the comic was

i dont know if its possible to compare comics to movies. its a bit ludicrous actually.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2009, 02:03:54 PM »
All the Marvel movies have more or less been shit adaptations.
the exception to the marvel movie suckage being Ironman? that was a kickass movie.

I knew some one would say that. it was good but not as good as the comic was

i dont know if its possible to compare comics to movies. its a bit ludicrous actually.

Seriously, Show me ONE movie that was better than its Book/Comic. It doesn't happen.

Now what they did to Xmen 3 was just a down right travesty, but you have to give some liberal licence to the Director and producers, they can't follow a book to the 'T' in the time alloted.

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2009, 02:15:05 PM »
a mw film would have to be a whole opera in length....if you imagine leaning the story of a film upon the huge book-storytree that already exists in mw i guess we´d most probably get a 12 hour film...woopeeee xD
or if it was some soapopera style-like old telenovela´s or the infamous 24???  that would be awesome indeed....

and hells, talking ´bout mw books: i need mo!!!!!!!!!!!!!  got them all read ( and except for most dark age books, owned as well)

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Re: "Don't sell 'em,"
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2009, 03:14:30 PM »
Seriously, Show me ONE movie that was better than its Book/Comic. It doesn't happen.

There are tons of cases where the movie was better than the book. Three pop into my head right away: Fight Club, Band of Brothers, Forrest Gump. Granted, its all a matter of opinion. There are tons of book snobs out there that always prefer the paper version, no matter how bad the original source material was.

I have not read a lot of comics, but since their story lines are so outlandish and stretched out over years, its very hard if not impossible to make a good movie adaptation and still satisfy the original comic book fans.