New Thought on BA

[Ghiest]

Not really, when I kill a mech I should have taken that player out of the battle till he can re-spawn and get a new machine, that's the way it is with MW and always has been, I know they didn't have time to implement proper characters to run around and I don't think now it's even on their 'books' to get done.  I don't want to call it lazy because I'm enormously thankful for the work that has been put in but it seems a massive glaring fapp you to BTech and MW cannon rules/lore/history/universe. It's like putting wings on a atlas, it's that glaring to me.  Sure most of you couldn't care less about it but as a purist and a massive fan of the history, back story and the whole universe it seems there could have been other ways to approach it.

[KingLeerUK]

I tried to think more on BA and I...

[HH_Burner]

It doesn't seem to do much against vehicles that I've tried...

Does anything really?  Maybe an Arrow 4 or 2 take em out but vehicles are way to powerful and are beginning to become the preferred vehicle.  Faster, stealthier and more powerful than mechs.  I thought this was a Mech type game?  BA and vehicles are too powerful and they diminish the real power of a battlemech on the field.  Add in Aeros which can fly around mostly without repurcussion.  No wonder there are so many non mech pilots in the servers.  piloting a mech takes real skillz.

my rant,

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[Checker]

It doesn't seem to do much against vehicles that I've tried...

Does anything really?  Maybe an Arrow 4 or 2 take em out but vehicles are way to powerful and are beginning to become the preferred vehicle.  Faster, stealthier and more powerful than mechs.  I thought this was a Mech type game?  BA and vehicles are too powerful and they diminish the real power of a battlemech on the field.  Add in Aeros which can fly around mostly without repurcussion.  No wonder there are so many non mech pilots in the servers.  piloting a mech takes real skillz.

my rant,

<S>

I have mech skills and they grow each time I climb into a mech. This is one awesome mod and much thanks to the dev team for putting it out here for us "mech heads" to enjoy. 

[DoA]

Not really, when I kill a mech I should have taken that player out of the battle till he can re-spawn and get a new machine, that's the way it is with MW and always has been, I know they didn't have time to implement proper characters to run around and I don't think now it's even on their 'books' to get done.  I don't want to call it lazy because I'm enormously thankful for the work that has been put in but it seems a massive glaring fapp you to BTech and MW cannon rules/lore/history/universe. It's like putting wings on a atlas, it's that glaring to me.  Sure most of you couldn't care less about it but as a purist and a massive fan of the history, back story and the whole universe it seems there could have been other ways to approach it.

I hear exactly what your saying Ghiest, and in fact, I do love that lore as well

Along with that I can recall many a book where someones mech gets disabled/trashed, then they climb out with a laser and do other things. Sometimes even fight!

Now I seem to recall somewhere along the line that the mech command couches took up most of the room, and there was room for a personal storage locker and not much more even in the bigger mechs. There would simply not be enough room to fit an elemental armor set and weapons in there.

In a vehicle, plenty of room id say, aero? meby, probably not considering modern plains.

All in all its not strict BT, but its nice and close and I like it!

[~SJ~ Tajin Nevversan]

The 5 elementals are 1 Mech scheme doesnt really apply here. Just one example, we dont have the kind of control over our mechs to for example accurately try and squish an elemental.

I took out an Uller together with an fellow BA-player yesterday, he was undamaged and lasted for only a few seconds. One combined fire, one guy distracts and the other plants a charge... the poor bastard barely realized what happend before it was too late.

Ok thats a light mech, but still... I wouldn't want to face 5 elemental... no matter with what mech. Then again on an 8 vs 8 server... those 5 elementals would mean that there are possibly 3 mechs fighting against 8 (not counting the elementals in) seen from that point of view the BAs are not so overpowered. Just like DoA explained. However...

1 mech per person
1 aerospace per person
1 tank per person
1 BA per person

this is not 100% right

1 mech+1 BA per person
1 aerospace+1 BA per person
1 tank+1 BA per person
1 BA per person

^-- this is more like it and imho thats the main problem there is. Ah and yeah mech-cockpits dont leave much room for equipment. Like I said, I think limiting the mount of weapons you can carry when entering any kind of vehile should do the trick. (it also stops BA-players from using tanks or planes just for transportation, which is especially annoying if its an sulla with thunderbolts that is used.)

[HH_Burner]

I have mech skills and they grow each time I climb into a mech. This is one awesome mod and much thanks to the dev team for putting it out here for us "mech heads" to enjoy. 

Yes you do brother Checker.  Much best used against a fellow mechwarrior than wasting resources pounding away at a tank or hovercraft while being knifed in the back Gulliver style by 4 BA's that cant keep a mech under theem long enough to get repaired.

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[Alendor]

gameplay wise, you can't fault the devs for their choice.  having to be on foot, or un armored would make ejecting a penalty, as opposed to saving your life.  immagine having to run back to base at half the speed of a sprinting BA.  that would take damn near the whole game.  having a BA makes returning to base actually doable, and makes ejecting having a purpose.

the issue comes from fully kitted out BAs ejecting, and having alot of firepower.  simply make a fully outfitted BA, similar in cost to vehicles and some of the lighter mech classeslike a 20-40k range.  that way if they want to have a BA with alot of hitting power, they have to sacrifice vehicle/mech strength.  right now they have their cake and eat it too.  they need to make a choice, either a heavy hitting BA setup, and cheaper mech/tank, or a more expensive mech/tank, and little BA effectivness. 

this would be the simplest way to change it imo, and would require minimal coding outside of tweaking cost numbers, and would balance everything out.