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Offline McScwizzy

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Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« on: January 10, 2010, 02:09:00 AM »
I am just wondering if my E8600 3.33ghz (not OC'd) is bottlenecking my 2x8800GTX's, because it seems no matter what resolution or detail I put the mod on performance still stays about the same. Has it come time for me to start overclocking?

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 11:29:18 PM »
I would think there is a pretty good chance with 2x 8800 your CPU is gonna bottleneck. But I doubt Ocing it will make all that difference. But a difference never the less!

Oh and make sure you got at least 4gb of ram as well. (You don't say how much you got)
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 12:09:43 AM »
I got  8gb Corsair Dominator 1066mhz RAM 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1V. I am starting to OC my processor, so far I have got it up to 4.2ghz running stable running Prime95 for 6 hours.. Haven't tried it in game yet.

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 11:25:43 AM »
I got  8gb Corsair Dominator 1066mhz RAM 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1V. I am starting to OC my processor, so far I have got it up to 4.2ghz running stable running Prime95 for 6 hours.. Haven't tried it in game yet.

4.2ghz will easily be enough for crysis, my i7 is at 4.4ghz and my CPU sits pretty idle most of the time XD (GC bottleneck for me though)

You got plenty of ram, so I would take your CPU as high as possible anything over 4ghz is gonna be fine for getting smooth FPS at high res of 60+fps easily. My mate has his Duel core at 3.6ghz with only one of your cards, and at 1900x1000 gets 50fps average in 32bit mode Dx9.

So don't sweat it.
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 11:29:26 AM »
Voodoo have you tried some benchmark programs? or tried running demos to get Frames Per Second.
I'd start with  3DMark Vantage.
or goto http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=12991  and get the Crysis benchmark

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 05:46:43 PM »
On average at 1920x1080 on High Details using DX9 + CCC, It seems on average I get around 20-30 and can still drop in the teens. 20-30 is plenty enough for me, but when it starts hitting the teens that is a problem. I tested it with 4.2ghz and the frames still seem about the same. So there must be a setting somewhere that I am missing.

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 06:00:24 PM »
I have a C2Duo 8400 @ 3.6GHz and a Radeon 4870 512MB. My CPU is running constantly with >80% load, with several 100% spikes during a round. My graphics card usualy runs with a 700MHz GPU and a 900MHz VRAM clocking. To save some power in 2D mode I manually lower the clockrating to 500MHz GPU and 450MHz VRAM.
Sometimes I forget to reset my graphic card to the high settings before starting MWLL. The funny thing is, running the mod with my underclocked Radeon doesn't have any noticeable impact on the "smoothness" of the gameplay (didn't measure the FPS).
So I say, in my case the main performance factor is the CPU. If it reaches a 100% spike the game might stop for 1 or maybe more seconds. The performance of my graphics card seems to be only a minor factor in MWLL.

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 07:19:59 PM »
Well the overclocking didn't do anything, so I guess it is just time to upgrade my video cards.

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 12:32:05 AM »
Well the overclocking didn't do anything, so I guess it is just time to upgrade my video cards.

Im just curious what FPS and res and graphic settings are you getting?
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 02:46:33 PM »
Yes Voodoo lets look at your settings and FPS or benchmark score
why spend when people on the forum may fix it for you.  :D

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 03:57:58 PM »
Yes Voodoo lets look at your settings and FPS or benchmark score
why spend when people on the forum may fix it for you.  :D

He gave that info-

On average at 1920x1080 on High Details using DX9 + CCC, It seems on average I get around 20-30 and can still drop in the teens. 20-30 is plenty enough for me, but when it starts hitting the teens that is a problem. I tested it with 4.2ghz and the frames still seem about the same. So there must be a setting somewhere that I am missing.

His 8800gtx cards are his bottle-neck. They might have been top dog in the day, but now they are at best equal to current middle-line cards.

I recommend you sell the 8800's and get yourself a single 5870(I'm thinking you can get around $100 apeice for them). I just replaced a pair of GTX280 cards with a single 5870. I'm getting about the same FPS(haven't actually checked my FPS with the 5870, but I haven't noticed a difference) and the card runs cooler than the 280's meaning the fans run slower which equals a quieter computer. I run MWLL at 1920*1200 resolution, all settings on very high, the GTX280's got me around 45fps, and I feel I'm getting about the same with the single 5870.
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 05:07:00 PM »
Yes Voodoo lets look at your settings and FPS or benchmark score
why spend when people on the forum may fix it for you.  :D

He gave that info-

On average at 1920x1080 on High Details using DX9 + CCC, It seems on average I get around 20-30 and can still drop in the teens. 20-30 is plenty enough for me, but when it starts hitting the teens that is a problem. I tested it with 4.2ghz and the frames still seem about the same. So there must be a setting somewhere that I am missing.

His 8800gtx cards are his bottle-neck. They might have been top dog in the day, but now they are at best equal to current middle-line cards.

I recommend you sell the 8800's and get yourself a single 5870(I'm thinking you can get around $100 apeice for them). I just replaced a pair of GTX280 cards with a single 5870. I'm getting about the same FPS(haven't actually checked my FPS with the 5870, but I haven't noticed a difference) and the card runs cooler than the 280's meaning the fans run slower which equals a quieter computer. I run MWLL at 1920*1200 resolution, all settings on very high, the GTX280's got me around 45fps, and I feel I'm getting about the same with the single 5870.

Oh i see, I didn't see that post slaps self.

Anyway, hes doing something HORRIBLY wrong. My friend has DX9 32x bit Mwll running at 50fps average on high settings 1900x1000 with 3.6ghz Duel core and ONE 8800GT. So Something else is wrong. He should be getting far better frames than 30's and defiently better than teens in FPS. Maybe my friend has a magical PC, (I personally think he does) but I don't quite understand while your FPS is so low. I assume drivers are all upto date, else I don't know.

Oh, make sure shadow detail is set to low, it's meant to mess up the FPS, some graphical glitch.
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 05:44:14 PM »
Anyway, hes doing something HORRIBLY wrong. My friend has DX9 32x bit Mwll running at 50fps average on high settings 1900x1000 with 3.6ghz Duel core and ONE 8800GT.

I don't think I believe your friend. Even though I set most of the settings to low and my 3.6Ghz dual core and overclocked 8800GT can do nearly 200 fps in the Crysis benchmark, it drops down to 25 fps in MWLL on Clearcut.

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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 06:11:53 PM »
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Anyway, hes doing something HORRIBLY wrong. My friend has DX9 32x bit Mwll running at 50fps average on high settings 1900x1000 with 3.6ghz Duel core and ONE 8800GT.

I find that extremely hard to believe also. My q9650 quad OC'ed to 3.6, 4 gigs DDR2 800 ram, and a single GTX280 got me around 40 fps high settings and 1920*1200 resolution. The GTX260 I had before the 280 got me around 35 fps at high settings. The 8800gt is nowhere near as strong as a GTX260, you sure he's not running a 8800gts(that would be believable to me)?

BTW, there is no 1900*1000 resolution that I know of, do you mean 1920*1080?.
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Re: Processor bottlenecking vid card?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 08:37:31 PM »
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Anyway, hes doing something HORRIBLY wrong. My friend has DX9 32x bit Mwll running at 50fps average on high settings 1900x1000 with 3.6ghz Duel core and ONE 8800GT.

I find that extremely hard to believe also. My q9650 quad OC'ed to 3.6, 4 gigs DDR2 800 ram, and a single GTX280 got me around 40 fps high settings and 1920*1200 resolution. The GTX260 I had before the 280 got me around 35 fps at high settings. The 8800gt is nowhere near as strong as a GTX260, you sure he's not running a 8800gts(that would be believable to me)?

BTW, there is no 1900*1000 resolution that I know of, do you mean 1920*1080?.

Yes 1900x1080. My i7 at 4.4ghz + nvidia 260 DX10 64x gives me average of 40fps EVEN on clearcut. in DX9 mode that would surley be higher. Graphics to high, 1900x1200 AA2x.

My friend just told me he has his AA set to none, so maybe thats why? Either way i'll try and get him to give screenshot later on.

Oh and my friend loses about 5fps-10fps on clearcut it seems.
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