Stacking teams, aka, beating up little girls.

[Mekabuser=12thVR=]

Starting to see this a little too much and find it disappointing. Ill drop in a game and see one team with twice as many points as the other, and the first three guys with ratios like 15-0,16-1 and 12-0. Meanwhile , the other team might have their number one guy at 5 and 7.
This is IMO lame. I for one dont give a shit because its always instructional to go against better shots etc, but I would imagine it certainly aint fun for any number of players on either team . What the hell kind of fun is it to beat a dead horse? wheres the challenge. WHy the hell dont any of you ratio queens ever switch and help the other team when its evident you are just kicking the shit out of them?
I cant stand anyone that doesnt die at least once a round. When this game is finished I look forward to ruining all those guys that just love those no death rounds.. Youll have one no matter what.. trust me.
We are trying to get people to play , not beat the noobs into submission to satisfy egos.

[Temphage]

Me being an untouchable Shadowcat god has nothing to do with stacking teams...

[sgnl05]

There are two reasons why this happens I think:

1. no autobalance. You can't join one team if it already has more than the other one, but if people from one team start leaving (sometimes happens when they're losing) the teams become unbalanced and the game doesn't do anything about it.

2. You're penalised for switching teams in the form of a suicide (minus 1 kill). Since this can often knock you down a rank doing the right thing and switching teams isn't really a very attractive option.

So if the devs can just add autobalance and remove the minus 1 kill for changing teams I don't think we'll have a problem with this. Doing this might not be so easy though. I don't really know how the crysis engine works

[Snowball]

I've been in several games in which it is pretty one-sided, and I've been on both the receiving and the giving end of it.  I tend to have very good k/d ratios, as well as a very good score rank, but this is based more off of play style and stage then anything else. 

On maps like Clearcut and Sandblasted, I spend almost the entire game in a Harasser C picking off flyboys, missile boats, and the occasional potshot at 'Mechs.  I often go 10(+) - 1 in games like this, and have a very good score.  In maps like Inferno and Marshes, I mix it up alot with Uller A's and C's, Pumas, the occasional Hollander, and Madcat B's, and I generally still have a pretty good score and k/d ratio.

If teams are unbalanced though, I do try to balance them as best as possible, as the majority of the community is willing to switch teams if someone calls attention to it.  If my team is undermanned, I call attention to it, and if the other team is undermanned, I call attention to it and switch teams.  I don't know if I've ever played a game with you Mek, but if I did I hope I stayed true to what I wrote here.

Tl;dr: If teams are unbalanced, call attention to it and see what happens.

[Temphage]

By the way, a stacked team is about more than just player counts. I've seen people demand that the teams be even when the 'underdog' team were all SCLs+, and my team were all half that rank and weight class. So, what? Us experienced players that constitute most of my crappy team's firepower should switch teams (since the noobs probably won't)? That's just going to make a problem WORSE.

[Freakazoid]

Edit: wrong thread, here's a more appropriate post:

Stacking is a problem for games that don't have player balance enforcement, which this game doesn't have yet. We're just going to have to deal with it until it's in.

Enforcing good players to join bad teams, however, would be difficult, if not insulting to the player. Part of having fun in a game is earning your winnings, either for yourself or for the team, or both. Sometimes that means terrible players are stacked against good players. That's something every online game has to live with.

Now, you could say that tanks/light mechs don't stand up well in the late game. That's a different argument, but its effects could be the kind of stacking you see now.

[[MPB]OM_Sannyasi]

stacking is when it's blatently obvious that a bunch of people joined the same team. like if there are a bunch of people on the same team with the same tag. stacking is not about a team just getting their asses whooped. I've not seen alot of what i call stacking. i do autojoin every game i play and i think it's mostly just he luck of where people end up.

[Mekabuser=12thVR=]

Geez, i made an angry post lol. Yeah, its not about numbers , but skilled players all going to same team. Not that i make a diff, but I dont auto join, i check the score and if i see a team getting whipped ill join it even if it unbalances teams.

[No!Petru]

Personally if the other team is getting battered/camped/outnumbered, I'll be the first to switch to them.

I find nothing more enjoying than breaking a camp, and turning a 50k vs 500k game around to a win because the attacking side are stupid and arrogant enough to walk single file into my base in Assault mechs, for my team to end up winning 650k vs 500k.

[Rally]

I cant stand anyone that doesnt die at least once a round.

What if that person did it all by himself, no stacking, no aiming for an unfair advantage? Will you still hate him then?

[Snowman]

Stacking/outnumber happens. Some just want to win to boost their little egos.
Or, "these are the best players...I'll get on their side and I'll be on winning team."
Stacking will still happen...

[Virt]

I actively try not to get killed in each round.   

I find the game more enjoyable when I take my piloting seriously, rather than just playing it like any old FPSer where you are in a perpetual cycle of run/gun/die/respawn.

Last night I achieved 7 kills and no deaths in the same Shadowcat.    I think that is a piloting achievement, not something to be discouraged.   I hope the devs reward good piloting on the scoreboard in future releases.

[~SJ~ Blhurr]

I always autojoin.  I've switched a few times.  I think a lot of those 12-0 scores are because of the AC partisan.

[Stahlseele]

i either autojoin or i join the team with the lower points.
i try and help out as much as i can. usually doing what nobody likes to do:
anti air gunnery with tanks.
i may not be getting many points or anything, but i can take some trouble of a team.
furthermore, i don't need all that much money usually, as i don't drive anything above huey a or prime.
so anything left over i usually donate. yes, that means sometimes i spawn with more than 100k and buy a tank for 40k and give away 60k

[Mekabuser=12thVR=]

I actively try not to get killed in each round.   

I find the game more enjoyable when I take my piloting seriously, rather than just playing it like any old FPSer where you are in a perpetual cycle of run/gun/die/respawn.

Last night I achieved 7 kills and no deaths in the same Shadowcat.    I think that is a piloting achievement, not something to be discouraged.   I hope the devs reward good piloting on the scoreboard in future releases.

thats true