ok PC guru's help an old noob.

[(TLL)Siilk]

 I know, but I couldn't see any problems in his configuration. The only possible weak spot is CPU, the rest of the system seems ok.

[4204ME]

My video card was part of the problem. The 8800gts that I have is an early build with 320meg of ram. This uses a different GPU than the later models and is less effective.  I recently picked up a 9800gt. Its not a card that I intend to keep and will be returning it. I bought it because its the fastest card bestbuy had in stock. My FPS did not increase at all however I did not get the super slow fps when server filled up.  I am looking into a 5750 or a 5770 soon.

[fyrye]

My problem now is that the minute the server gets to more than 24 players my FPS drops to single digits everytime I get close to the enemy. With 10 or less I can brawl, sorta.

Phenome 2.4
8 gig ram
8800 gts video card
vista 64

I have my settings mostly at low and it seems to run better in 64bit.

MWLL should work ok on this hardware. Maybe it's a network problem?

Unless he's on wireless, shouldn't notice that big of a hit on FPS. Wireless networks have a higher error rate than wired, forcing CPU cycles to request the information over again until it's fully received. This can be caused by range to the router, as well any static on the signal (yes even with full bars..)

I believe the biggest issue is the motherboard, MicroATX HP mod of an MSI board.
Running an 8600GTS, 2.4ghz E6600, 2GB DDR2 800mhz and play fine on Full 28 man server with out overclocking.
The biggest issue I see is if I zoom in on a PPC Landing or LRM Launch.

[Mawg]

Two checkpoints for you

Latest video card drivers aboard?   Download from you board manufacturer

Latest Direct X from Microsoft on your system?  Download from Microsoft.com

Also defrag your drive, clean out your drive   Defraggler and CCCleaner   downloads online they are free.

[Slayer]

From the looks of it your hardware is fine to run this game. People who instantly tell you your hardware is no good have no clue. I ran Crysis on a similar system when it first came out just fine.

It would be helpful to know what driver versions you are using for your  Nvidia card and what resolution. You should also be using SP2 for Vista as there are numerous fixes for the graphics subsystems etc. I remember on vanilla Vista x64 Sli was broken by the OS for well over a month before both MS and Nvida had to come out with patches to make things mesh...

With Nvidia cards sometimes turning all settings to low will cause a performance decrease. I can't explain the mechanics of it but I have seen it in several games when I had my 8800GTX setup. The biggest performance hit for Nvidia based cards now is the shadows/shaders. The 2 settings that you should focus on are AA and shadows. They will be the biggest hit against your performance.

[fyrye]

From the looks of it your hardware is fine to run this game. People who instantly tell you your hardware is no good have no clue. I ran Crysis on a similar system when it first came out just fine.

It would be helpful to know what driver versions you are using for your  Nvidia card and what resolution. You should also be using SP2 for Vista as there are numerous fixes for the graphics subsystems etc. I remember on vanilla Vista x64 Sli was broken by the OS for well over a month before both MS and Nvida had to come out with patches to make things mesh...

With Nvidia cards sometimes turning all settings to low will cause a performance decrease. I can't explain the mechanics of it but I have seen it in several games when I had my 8800GTX setup. The biggest performance hit for Nvidia based cards now is the shadows/shaders. The 2 settings that you should focus on are AA and shadows. They will be the biggest hit against your performance.

Shaders, shadows, and particles seem to be the largest hits for pretty much all cards.
The mechanics behind the performance decrease is that certain features when on low have to be passed through a software based filter to compress textures, etc. Thus taking some of the load off of the GPU/vRam and placing more on system CPU and memory.
This would increase performance of a low end graphics card assuming the CPU and memory are able to handle the requests.
The reverse happens if the graphics card can handle the original textures as fast or at the same speed it takes to compress/optimize the textures via a software filter.
I've spoke with him, and he has literally tried everything except swapping out the CPU/memory/motherboard.
From drivers, game and GPU settings, to BIOS and Windows updates. Even swapping graphics cards.

[Fa1lomenon]

Please keep in mind that the 9750 was the first-generation Phenom, and even the second-gen Phenom II had with average/low FPS in Crysis specifically.

Back in my days of working for a custom computer builder, I dubbed the Phenom a "Failom" due to its lackluster performance. I have been an AMD supported since AXP+9700 days, still have the first ever 1GHz CPU (An Athlon!) machine I resurrected and is fully operational.

Also, the 8800 GTS 320 is much slower than 9800 GTX, as it has only 96 "stream processors", much lower clocks, and less RAM. I noticed Crysis using up ~760MB of Video RAM!

Of course, this will all depend on what kind of resolution the game is being run at.

[4204ME]

Ok guys my issue is fixed. The 8800gts 320 meg is a fail card. The GPU predates the one used in the 512meg and newer cards. I picked up an ati 5750 1gig and life is good now. One small hiccup I see though is that voices on TS will coincide with a slight stutter sometomes. I think this is my PC telling me " get a sound card you cheap sob". Thanks alot to all that gave input.

[MagicSquirrel07]

Hi 4204ME. In case you're wondering, my complete specs are:

Intel e8400 dual core, I overclocked it to 3.6GHz (from 3GHz)
4GB DDR2
GF8800 GT, 512MB, overclocked by the maker to 660Mhz core (+10% over stock), shaders 1650MHz (+10%) and memory 950Mhz (+5%)
32bit XP/DX9

The setting I run at are everything low except water and textures which are med. The game runs pretty well most of the time under these settings, 90fps in hangar, around 50 in battle and in rarely drops under 30.

Hmm pretty similar to my system, core2 e6420 overclocked to 3.6ghz, 8800gt, 8gb RAM that XP only sees 3.5gb of XD, haven't overclocked gc did once but it got wiped and I don't really see the point of doing it again for the negligeable increase in performance.  XP 32bit.

I have a 24" 1900*1080 monitor and I was running the game on high settings (no aa).  After the new patch I had to turn shaders down to medium, but everything else is still on high and I am basically getting the same fps you describe.
Running everything on low gives me a huge increase on this and really isn't neccesary.   Wonder why your system runs so much slower? What res are you running?

[~SJ~ Xarg Talasko]

Could be an idea to check if anti-aliasing and/or anisotropic filtering are forced on in your video card software (CCC for ATI, whatever the NVidia control panel is called for NVidia).

[Barbaric Soul]

whatever the NVidia control panel is called for NVidia

It's called the NVidia control panel

[Fa1lomenon]

MagicSquirrel, Crysis engine is heavily GPU dependant, so you will probably see linear increase in average/low FPS with GPU overclocking. Any 8800GT should be goot to ~675-700 core at least (with shader clock linked).

[MagicSquirrel07]

MagicSquirrel, Crysis engine is heavily GPU dependant, so you will probably see linear increase in average/low FPS with GPU overclocking. Any 8800GT should be goot to ~675-700 core at least (with shader clock linked).

I had it overclocked as far as it would go before but i lost my rivatuner settings. It just doesn't seem worth doing it again, days work for negligable fps increase.
Yeh i could just turn it up till it stops working, but i like to do things properly or not at all and i can.t be bothered XD

[sleepysheep]

I'd have to agree with Magic, it's just not worth the time and effort for a few lousy frames. I have the 5970 manufactor OC, and even though it might not be the very max it can OC the card, it has little effect on FPS at all in game.

Is 1-2 FPS increase REALLY that important? I'd rather just buy a new GC (Or another one) if I cared that much about the FPS.

[MagicSquirrel07]

I'd have to agree with Magic, it's just not worth the time and effort for a few lousy frames. I have the 5970 manufactor OC, and even though it might not be the very max it can OC the card, it has little effect on FPS at all in game.

Is 1-2 FPS increase REALLY that important? I'd rather just buy a new GC (Or another one) if I cared that much about the FPS.

you already did LOL
"oh no i lost 10fps with new patch I'll buy the most expensive gc in the world!"
gotta love the sheepy logic