Assault out of the gate:(

[HH_Burner]

Found this an interesting way to lay siege on a map less than 5 mins old.  Go kill a few lights and repay your buddy with suicidal tendencies so he can buy a heavy.  Boys, those of us that are Old School Mechas know something about Honor.  This obviously is not honorable but, the mod allows it to be done at this time.     Go back and play your shooter of the month please.

[Blowfish]

Unfortunately this is a fundamental problem with the money system as it stands, playing with just one friend on a server last night we were transferring as much money as possible before dying and i think we ended up with about half a million in the pot even though we were buying more expensive mechs than our ranks would allow normally.

I think it's actually symptomatic of two problems, the first is that it is that money is too easy to get and the second is that the larger mechs are too cheap. I would like to see a multipler on the current costs system based on weight class and rank (i.e very very expensive to buy an Atlas as a cadet but less so as a point commander). I'm not sure how easy that would be to implement though so as a quick fix the ammount of "experience" needed to "level up" could be increased for the higher ranks, it wouldnt fix the specific problem you've so eloquently pointed out but in this case think 6 light mechs should take a lone Atlas apart pretty quickly .

The transfer of funds itself is a great concept because if you join a game 40 minutes in you don't want to be sitting in an uller unable to get any kills and dying at the slightest touch because everyone is jollying arround in assault mechs, or if you just need that extra 4K for gauss ammo.

[sleepysheep]

Lol, that was a funny sight seeing all those light mechs and tanks run away. Either way, I was lagging really badly and since I was bored I told my friend I could give him an Atlas at the start of the game. He didn't quite belive me, so I did it to prove a point.

He can't aim anyway and he let you kill him by shutting down!! Be thankful!

Still laughing from that uller going over that hill getting shot and running back to the hanger LOL.

[Defender]

At the moment, it's technically working as intended. In the past we had a limitation in place during dev testing where if you commited suicide you'd gain no Cbills upon next spawn, to blatantly counter people suiciding and donating.

The problem led to frustration during testing where we'd either crash due to instability or just plain random shit. Starting with no Cbills just because you died accidentally was more of a flaw than being able to suicide and donate. After beta we may put some rendition of this limitation back in, but for now, the more important factor is that the majority of people have fun and respawning with no money due to something you had no control over was no fun.

[MagicSquirrel07]

Just thought I'd say as sheepy said above I didn't quite believe him so he said he'd do it, it actually made me chuckle when I saw you standing in front of me looking...
And as Sheepy says above I fired about 3 times and then shut down and let people kill me and bought a sensible mech...
Anyway you didn't complain on team talk to me (to which I would of replied I had no intention of playing the game with that mech), but instead posted on the forum.. So now anyone that previously didn't know about this (and might be inclined to go on a killing spree instead of shutting down) can now go do that.

I don't know how you can fix it really, because if you join with 10 minutes of a game to go its nice to be able to get given money and buy a decent mech instead of getting 1 shotted continuously.  Maybe limit on the transfer of funds in the first 10 minutes of the game? Or make the transfer of funds time dependant (10k first 10 mins, 20k 10-20mins, 30k 20-20mins etc.)
Don't know how easily you could implement that though.

[HH_Burner]

Lol, that was a funny sight seeing all those light mechs and tanks run away. Either way, I was lagging really badly and since I was bored I told my friend I could give him an Atlas at the start of the game. He didn't quite belive me, so I did it to prove a point.

He can't aim anyway and he let you kill him by shutting down!! Be thankful!

Still laughing from that uller going over that hill getting shot and running back to the hanger LOL.

Yeah it was funny watchin the ullers and owens flipping through the air:)

Magicsquirrel:  I didnt say you were doing anything wrong.  At first I thought you had hacked the game..then I saw Sleepy's 2 suicides.  This was the first time that I had noticed anything like this and thought it was odd because I had never thought about it.  The Atlas did go away quickly and I think you came back with a Hollander with the Hgauss.  You're a real good shot and it was funnyl watchin the lights getting tossed head over heels.

[MagicSquirrel07]

Lol, that was a funny sight seeing all those light mechs and tanks run away. Either way, I was lagging really badly and since I was bored I told my friend I could give him an Atlas at the start of the game. He didn't quite belive me, so I did it to prove a point.

He can't aim anyway and he let you kill him by shutting down!! Be thankful!

Still laughing from that uller going over that hill getting shot and running back to the hanger LOL.

Yeah it was funny watchin the ullers and owens flipping through the air:)

Magicsquirrel:  I didnt say you were doing anything wrong.  At first I thought you had hacked the game..then I saw Sleepy's 2 suicides.  This was the first time that I had noticed anything like this and thought it was odd because I had never thought about it.  The Atlas did go away quickly and I think you came back with a Hollander with the Hgauss.  You're a real good shot and it was funny watching the lights getting tossed head over heels.

Not sure what the first mech I bought was, my friend just told me he thinks I accidentally killed a light mech when I was in the atlas (I was trying to aim at the hill because it was funny watching them run away lol). I fired about 3 shots then shut down and sat there till I died. 

Don't know about "good shot" either... I'm pretty much useless with anything but Guass or PPC lol.

Its not something I'll be doing in the future, it was just one of those things, sheepy told me people were doing it all the time (not to get atlases but more to get medium mechs) against him, and I didn't quite believe him so he said he'd show me.  I admit it was really funny watching them run away, and sitting there in the hanger at the start seeing this light mech standing there looking bemused made me laugh, and I'm sure they must have got a leg up in the game with the damage caused killing an Atlas.

[Toth]

This is why I didn't want c-bill transfer allowed inside of vehicles. Oh well, we'll come up with something. 

[MagicSquirrel07]

Surely just limiting c-bill transfer for the first 10 minutes for instance would prevent people starting the game with higher class mechs.

I do think c-bill transfer is a good thing, otherwise the game can be extremely tedious if you join a game that is already in progress. 

[Liberius]

I think the idea has crossed most players' minds. My brother and I play together regularly, but we refrain from this behavior. I think it has something to do with us both racing to see who can become SaKhan faster.

[UN1T]

MAYBE A RANK RESTRICTION.
Ie : until you hit rank 3 you cant give away credits ?

[(TLL)Xermalk]

MAYBE A RANK RESTRICTION.
Ie : until you hit rank 3 you cant give away credits ?

That would be a bad idea, a better one would be limiting it so either you can only carry x amount of cbills for every rank. Or limiting it so you cant donate for 5 min after suiciding.

[No!Petru]

Not seen it cause a problem so far.  An Atlas vs half a dozen Lights isn't going to last long, as long as the Lights keep moving.

[QiLin]

Not seen it cause a problem so far.  An Atlas vs half a dozen Lights isn't going to last long, as long as the Lights keep moving.

Well Petru - there is a flaw in your logic. It's an Atlas plus 5 other lights vs. half a dozen lights... 

OTH - I haven't seen that kind of abuse yet. But it's a bad loophole for sure!

[(TLL)Siilk]

 There's a thread, "Suicide to start with heavy mechs", where this issue was, discussed. Look through it to see what preventive measures for suicide farming have been suggested so far.