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Offline Artemis Dragmire

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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2011, 07:43:37 AM »
Since I was asked in another thread:

Used to play EVE Online, probably still would if I had the money, just to hang out with the Veto guys.

The actual game and CCP themselves irritate me, I really think CCP is shooting themselves in the foot by constantly developing bits of the game nobody cares about and do nothing to affect the actual spaceship combat that makes up the majority of what their playerbase is interested in.

Eventually, this is going to cause a mass exodus from the game when people get fed up over it.

That said, I would play just to hang out with my corp, but don't have the spare money right now.

Their microtransaction model pisses me off as well.

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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2011, 11:26:04 AM »
The actual game and CCP themselves irritate me, I really think CCP is shooting themselves in the foot by constantly developing bits of the game nobody cares about and do nothing to affect the actual spaceship combat that makes up the majority of what their playerbase is interested in.

Eventually, this is going to cause a mass exodus from the game when people get fed up over it.

I believe this will happen as soon as there's a viable alternative on the market. Currently, there's none, and as far as I know, none has been announced either as far, meaning that there won't be any for at least the next 3 years.
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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2011, 11:37:07 AM »
The actual game and CCP themselves irritate me, I really think CCP is shooting themselves in the foot by constantly developing bits of the game nobody cares about and do nothing to affect the actual spaceship combat that makes up the majority of what their playerbase is interested in.

Eventually, this is going to cause a mass exodus from the game when people get fed up over it.

I believe this will happen as soon as there's a viable alternative on the market. Currently, there's none, and as far as I know, none has been announced either as far, meaning that there won't be any for at least the next 3 years.

Agreed, it will happen eventually. Infinity (At least I think that was what it was called) looked promising, but there's no definite release date on it yet.

CCP has gotten fat and complacent, and it's why I don't feed them MORE money.

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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2011, 06:30:25 AM »
*WALL OF TEXT ALERT*

I have varied reasons for leaving:

1.  CCP devs and GM's act like God's gift to mankind.  A vast pool of incredible talent placed upon the Earth for the sole purpose of showing us how awesome they think they are.  God help you if you don't agree with them.  When they release new content, it isn't done with a "Hey guys, we hope you enjoy it" sort of attitude; it's done with a "We're so awesome, we stooped low enough to give you guys some content...aren't we awesome?" attitude.  I tried to ignore this, but it's pretty sickening.

2.  As someone has proven, many of the GM's have alts in high places in player corps; their enemies have strangely had capital ships vanish right before fights; this has been documented twice (that I know of).  The people who posted links to fraps videos of this on the official forums were silenced.

3.  Incarna was a joke.  We are supposed to get new content every six months.  What we got are new turrets visuals (half of which look worse than they did before, such as the railguns that look like fire extinguishers), and a half-assed 'walking in stations' setup that never lets you leave your quarters (and unable to do anything meaningful while there), which doesn't even work when you live at a POS.  Also, missiles still look just as lame as ever, and mysteriously pop out of thin air beneath the ship.

4.  CCP has demonstrated that they have no qualms about ruining the economy, which is the cornerstone of the game; I had assumed they would NEVER even consider doing this.  With that firm foundation gone, I really have no faith whatsoever in CCP.

5.  When confronted with the BS they are pulling, they simply said, in a published statement, that people are just pissed that a tshirt costs 20 bucks, and that it should, since it costs 20 bucks in real life.  They completely ignored what pissed people off the most.

6.  Railguns still suck horribly in medium and large turrets.  People have been saying this on the forums for YEARS, yet CCP has yet to simply up their damage, accuracy, or something else to make them useful.  There were rumors floating about that they'd do something to fix it with this release...instead, they fixed rockets.  A weapon almost nobody cares about.

7.  CCP makes a point of bragging about this 'sandbox' setup, and that there are no rules.  Bullshit.  My CEO sent in a ticket regarding a bug that went in rendering cans unanchorable in W-space.  The GM simply closed the ticket repeatedly, with no reply.  So, he went on the forums and raised hell.  The result?  CCP said, "there's no reason to live in a wormhole system", and locked the thread.  So much for the sandbox, or devs who know what they're talking about.

8.  GM's who laugh at players' misfortune, instead of helping them.  As if the learning cliff wasn't steep enough, I was running a mission with a friend once...when we arrived at the jumpgate between Dodixie and Mies (I think...some system neighboring Dodixie), we were in a Drake and a Myrmidon.  When we popped out the other side of the jumpgate, the Myrmidon had vanished, and its pilot was in his pod.  The GM's response was, and I quote, "LOL Noob."  For those of you who don't play EVE, there is no gameplay mechanic to explain this.

9.  As often as CCP changes the balance of this game, and the fact that it can take 6-10 months to train into a new ship/weapon setup, it is unacceptable that there is no respec/reskill availability in EVE.  When they nerf something, they tend to do it in such a way as to make it completely non-competitive, and thereby useless.  The Ferox was originally rather formidable as a battlecruiser; now, if people see you flying one, it's assumed that you are using it as a gas harvester, or they assume you're new and have no idea what you're doing.

I hesitated to leave, simply because STO is the only other game out there with space combat, and while it incorporates firing arcs and twitch flight control, it's completely different.  In the end, however, I couldn't support CCP, in light of what they're doing with EVE (or, in some cases, NOT doing with EVE).

I await Infinity with the utmost anticipation and the highest hopes.

/rant - didn't mean to rant, but I've played this game for the past five or six years, and it's one hell of a disappointment to see what they've done to this game.  It was so much fun a few years ago, I had a hard time seeing what was happening until it started adding up.
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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2011, 08:06:41 AM »
I agree with most of what you posted there. My bittervet energies have been depleted however, and I have moved on. :)

I figure, EVE introduced me to great friends, so it'll always be a fond memory for me.

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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2011, 10:02:04 AM »
Unfortunately, I can count the number of people I met playing EVE who are worth knowing on one hand.  With no fingers.  People like to claim that they are just douchebags in the game, but nice people in real life, but I disagree.  A douchebag is a douchebag, no matter what they're doing...and EVE Online is full of them.  The only people I liked in EVE were people I knew from other games, or people my friends knew from other games; I never actually ran into anyone there I liked.  A few of said people were in my corp, which is probably one of the reasons I stayed as long as I did.

Choosing a corporation in EVE is like voting in the US.  You do not choose who you like; you choose the people who are likely to screw things up the least (read: the ones who don't do anything).

Oh, and btw: where CCP is concerned, these are not microtransactions; they are macrotransactions.  ::)
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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2011, 11:54:33 AM »
Eh, I usually agree about random people and groups online, but Veto has been great for the three or four years now that I've been with them. Yea, they'll blow you up and ransom your ships in game, but man, great bunch of guys to party with both on Ventrillo and in person.

If I had the money I'd be down in Nashville this weekend at the EVE meetup they organized, even though I don't play the game anymore.

And yea, CCP has boned themselves hard on their transaction system. I knew it was going downhill the moment they put PLEXes in the game, tbh.

I'll give respect to CCP where it's due, they had a great game that entertained me for about 5 years and allowed me to meet some great people, they just seem to have lost their focus, which is unfortunate.

Maybe they'll come back from it if they're given some competition. EVE was really awesome for the first few years I played it. The Apocrypha expansion in particular was badass (Wormholes were a brilliant addition to the game, as were the t3 ships)

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Re: EVE online.....anyone *echo echo echo*
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2011, 08:24:49 PM »
T3 ships, and W-space, both came about at the same time, and are dependent upon one another.  Does it not seem silly, then, that it is impossible to change subsystems on a T3 while in W-space?

CCP explained it very thoughtfully and thoroughly, though: "We never intended you to live in W-space.  If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to stay there."  Sandbox...indeed.

The W-space systems are some of the best content they've come out with, though; unfortunately, they made scanning so damned easy every noob with a Velator and a Core Probe Launcher I is out there looting the scannable sites in hisec...which I used to use for great cash income.  So...for hisec, I'm stuck running the same missions over and over (which, sadly, is the fastest money-maker in the game, as far as I have seen), or living in low/null/w-space, where I have to fly cheap shit because I don't want to loose something to expensive...which kind of defeats the purpose of having nice, high-end equipment in the game.

Ok, I have to stop posting here...every time I think of how poorly they've managed what used to be an interesting game, I start ranting again, lol.  Definitely agree that it used to be an absolutely superb way to waste my life away, though.  ;D
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