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Re: joystick
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 01:45:15 PM »
ok update, i returned that POS saitek cyborg x  for a logitech extreme 3d pro

and this time around i seem to be getting somewhere.

However, i'm still unable to bind certain controls, for instance, the throttle aka slider 0 does not seem to want to work with any of move chassis forwards/backwards or set throttle controls

the throttle can be very tricky due to the EnableThrottleval action dependency.  If you use the actionmaps provided in the documentation folder of MWLL v0.2 for the X52 it sets that action to number pad divide key, thought I haven't always had luck with that so I add the slider/throttle axis under that action also and it usually works, though seems to sometimes not want to work when I open crysis with the throttle at 0 or 100% so like i said its tricky.

also when i try to bind the twist axis on the joystick to torso twist, my mech twists really super slow whether or not i bump up the joystick sensitivity

I also had similar torso twist slowness to begin with, you just need to go into you joystick.cfg and adjust the joyrot_z values, for instance if the "att" value is 10 at default, try setting to 1 I think.

and yeah it seems some of the controls are unbindable on account of the actionmapper not keeping any of the binds i try to enter into the boxes that are empty by default

As for your problem with unbindable controls, the only time I know this happens is when those actions do not exist in your actionmaps you're using, so I'm assuming you haven't yet used the File-New from the tool, or used the X52 actionmaps from the documentation folder, as the program will not add actions in when their missing.  I'm hoping to account for this in a later version, at the least showing which actions are missing in the file by striking out the action and placing a message showing why its not available and how to correct it until it can be accounted for automatically.

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Re: joystick
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 04:11:04 PM »
thanks i'll try this out later
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Re: joystick
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2010, 07:11:55 AM »
awesome the info you gave me works like a charm, though for the throttle, i had to do a quick and dirty go around and simply mapped w and s to the throttle.  but it works fine enough for me.

though for some reason i can't remap any of the aero controls.  right now in game the turning of the vtols is handled by twisting the stick and the roll is handled by the yaw.  I want to switch that around, but for some reason the keys don't rebind.
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Re: joystick
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 02:43:49 PM »
though for some reason i can't remap any of the aero controls.  right now in game the turning of the vtols is handled by twisting the stick and the roll is handled by the yaw.  I want to switch that around, but for some reason the keys don't rebind.

Yeah the VTOL tab is FUBAR as of v0.2 (sorry bout that one).... v0.2.1 is ready and underway to be released later today and will correct this among a few other things. Also a few new usage features :)

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Re: joystick
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2010, 05:57:08 PM »
let me applaud myself for helping CapperDeluxe with the helicopter section ;) ;) ;)



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Re: joystick
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 06:24:34 PM »
let me applaud myself for helping CapperDeluxe with the helicopter section ;) ;) ;)

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Re: joystick
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2010, 07:22:24 PM »
Well I tried the actionmapper and its very good and much easier than editing the file yourself, but any idea why my throttle only has full speed or stop?  I can go full reverse, full forwards or stop with no increments between?

If it helps its a Thrustmaster T flight Hotas I just bought because it was cheap on amazon
I press numpad / to get throttle working but then its full speed or zero...
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Re: joystick
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2010, 07:25:43 PM »
Well I tried the actionmapper and its very good and much easier than editing the file yourself, but any idea why my throttle only has full speed or stop?  I can go full reverse, full forwards or stop with no increments between?

If it helps its a Thrustmaster T flight Hotas I just bought because it was cheap on amazon
I press numpad / to get throttle working but then its full speed or zero...

I also have a T flight Hotas X, you need to open your joystick.cfg file and modify the joyaxis_z att value, I think the default is at maybe 10 and I had to put mine down to 1 or 2 if i recall properly

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Re: joystick
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2010, 07:33:03 PM »
Well I tried the actionmapper and its very good and much easier than editing the file yourself, but any idea why my throttle only has full speed or stop?  I can go full reverse, full forwards or stop with no increments between?

If it helps its a Thrustmaster T flight Hotas I just bought because it was cheap on amazon
I press numpad / to get throttle working but then its full speed or zero...

I also have a T flight Hotas X, you need to open your joystick.cfg file and modify the joyaxis_z att value, I think the default is at maybe 10 and I had to put mine down to 1 or 2 if i recall properly
Cheers.  Any other hints for the other axis?  I don't think the sensitivity is right atm.  I think I might try setting the throttle slider to turning later and the joystick to control torso left right up down.
Also where exactly is the joystick.cfg file, people keep mentioning it but not where it is  :o
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Re: joystick
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2010, 08:09:07 PM »
I don't use my joystick for gameplay right now, because the throttle is still a bit funky at times.  Also when I zoom in all the way with EOptics it just doesn't feel right and I can't hit anything with it.  Other than that its got all I need, I'm just hoping they update the zoomed view motion sensitivity in the next version to make it so I don't feel that I'm better off shooting with a mouse and keyboard.

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Re: joystick
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2010, 08:18:24 PM »
I don't use my joystick for gameplay right now, because the throttle is still a bit funky at times.  Also when I zoom in all the way with EOptics it just doesn't feel right and I can't hit anything with it.  Other than that its got all I need, I'm just hoping they update the zoomed view motion sensitivity in the next version to make it so I don't feel that I'm better off shooting with a mouse and keyboard.
I know I'm better off, and I know its way way easier with mouse and keyboard but it's much more fun with joystick.  I'd rather be bottom of the table having more fun tbh.  Just atm the up down sensitivity in particular is completely messed up.
I got the hat to work with zoom by swapping it with the bottom button on back of throttle with that mapping button, but I wish the hat worked properly.  I want up for zoom, left for select next friendly, right select next enemy and down for select nearest enemy.  Then I'd be happy as larry.

Still program works well and thanks for making it.  Much less hassle than the last time I tried setting one up in mwll.
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Re: joystick
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2010, 10:07:15 PM »
Sounds a lot like sensitivity to me MagicSquirrel. Have you checked the joystick.cfg as recommended? If the axis is set to 1 and still working the way you described try using the raw input (e.g. rawjoyaxis_z) and lower the sensitivity on your stick.

when I zoom in all the way with EOptics it just doesn't feel right and I can't hit anything with it.

use the xi_ functions for ur axis' and zoomed torso twist will be all fine!



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Re: joystick
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2010, 10:10:53 PM »
Sounds a lot like sensitivity to me MagicSquirrel. Have you checked the joystick.cfg as recommended? If the axis is set to 1 and still working the way you described try using the raw input (e.g. rawjoyaxis_z) and lower the sensitivity on your stick.

when I zoom in all the way with EOptics it just doesn't feel right and I can't hit anything with it.

use the xi_ functions for ur axis' and zoomed torso twist will be all fine!

Sensitivity can also be set using "real" numbers like 0.75 or 1.25. This will allow you even more detailed tweaking of your axis sensitivity.
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Re: joystick
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2010, 10:14:08 PM »
Sounds a lot like sensitivity to me MagicSquirrel. Have you checked the joystick.cfg as recommended? If the axis is set to 1 and still working the way you described try using the raw input (e.g. rawjoyaxis_z) and lower the sensitivity on your stick.

when I zoom in all the way with EOptics it just doesn't feel right and I can't hit anything with it.

use the xi_ functions for ur axis' and zoomed torso twist will be all fine!
It never seems to be right though, I can have it set so it doesn't just jump instantly to the sky, but then you have to move the tiniest increment to stay on target, the centre margin needs to be bigger.
And I agree when zoomed it becomes stupidly twitchy and hard to aim compared to before.

Atm I have the throttle for turning and throttle (with 8 buttons for masc jj etc.) and the mouse.  Completely gets rid of keyboard but I just can't get the joystick set up right in this patch it seems so for now I've gone half way and using throttle and mouse lol.
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