PPCs, why do they suck?

[Jonttu]

I don't know what the rest of you think but I feel Gauss Rifles and especially PPCs should have a faster muzzle velocity. It doesn't necessarily have to be instantaneous like in MW4 but at least nearly twice as fast so that you don't have to lead a kilometer when you're trying to hit a moving target at max range. It'd get slightly easier that way.
One problem/bug that also has to be dealt with is how especially gauss rifles and ppcs fire off the reticle. It has been mentioned before and I believe a dev said its just a graphical error or something, that it doesn't actually fire the round in the wrong direction. Either way it confuses me all the time when I try to adapt to the misconception(?) that my gun is actually firing off the crosshairs by several meters (depending on the distance).
Also an mw3-style targeting computer (the target lead indicator thing) would also be a nice thing in the game as it could help some people in trying to hit moving targets from afar.

[(TLL)Siilk]

It has been mentioned before and I believe a dev said its just a graphical error or something, that it doesn't actually fire the round in the wrong direction. Either way it confuses me all the time when I try to adapt to the misconception(?) that my gun is actually firing off the crosshairs by several meters (depending on the distance).

 Devs stated that this issue is fixed so, I presume, Gauss rounds flying off the reticule would bug us no more in 0.3.0.

[Nakor]

A more important question... Why the hell does this thread go on for 7 pages?? Sometimes this place makes my brain hurt lol.

[Makaan]

THE RAGE THATS WHY


, but serious we don't know why.

One answer

ITS THE INTERNET GET USED TO IT

[DracheM]

I love PPCs.  The Awesome C is my favorite mech, I think.  It does amazing damage when everything is working smoothly.

It's a huge pain when you play on a server where you've got any sort of desync or server-side lag though.  Having your shots vanish server-side when they're dead on (especially with the leading required and the cooldown you've got to suffer through a miss) really sucks, especially compared to the better hit detection for direct fire or lock-on weapons.

It happens on a variety of servers with a variety of pings.  I've had it happen in 1v1 servers and on massive games, and on various maps, so I don't know that it's a server-overloaded issue (like, for example, Clearcut with max players).  I've even had it happen separate from warping, so I'm not really sure what the underlying issue is; if I was, I'd submit a bug report, but otherwise I'm not too sure my complaining will be helpful without an analysis of a common theme to work off of.

Suffice to say that I have no problems with the PPC balance-wise, but something in the code may need to be tweaked to give it more reliable performance!

[Colonel Drego]

Now where do I know the same DracheM from... Did you ever play Battlefield 2 on the PC by chance?

[DracheM]

Yeah, I played BF2 and BF2142.

[Barcode]

I've gotten used to this game, and I have to say, when your connection is good, the PPCs are EXCELLENT long range weapons. Infinite range + decent damage + heat/flinching on enemy 'Mech only hampered by all-over-'Mech-damage-spread.

When there is a problem with the connection, though, the PPC tends to simply vanish. I've shot 3 or 4 times on stationary targets at 1000 metres only to see the shots disappear on contact, followed by PPC hit effects above and around the opposing 'Mech.

[Mattk50]

I don't know what the rest of you think but I feel Gauss Rifles and especially PPCs should have a faster muzzle velocity. It doesn't necessarily have to be instantaneous like in MW4 but at least nearly twice as fast so that you don't have to lead a kilometer when you're trying to hit a moving target at max range. It'd get slightly easier that way.
One problem/bug that also has to be dealt with is how especially gauss rifles and ppcs fire off the reticle. It has been mentioned before and I believe a dev said its just a graphical error or something, that it doesn't actually fire the round in the wrong direction. Either way it confuses me all the time when I try to adapt to the misconception(?) that my gun is actually firing off the crosshairs by several meters (depending on the distance).
Also an mw3-style targeting computer (the target lead indicator thing) would also be a nice thing in the game as it could help some people in trying to hit moving targets from afar.

agreed, usually when im playing a game i only have to lead a target by miniscule amounts (big BC2 guy here), the amounts requered to lead by ppcs and gauss atm feel silly and arcade-ish.

[Redvan]

PPCs suck?

Lasers:  Do damage

PPCs:  Do damage, knock, and heat build up on target.

Of course they're gonna do less damage, they do more all together.

[Askis]

agreed, usually when im playing a game i only have to lead a target by miniscule amounts (big BC2 guy here), the amounts requered to lead by ppcs and gauss atm feel silly and arcade-ish.

Big BC2 guy and PPCs and Gauss feel arcade-ish?
RPG7? And even worse, Tank cannons?

[Redvan]

agreed, usually when im playing a game i only have to lead a target by miniscule amounts (big BC2 guy here), the amounts requered to lead by ppcs and gauss atm feel silly and arcade-ish.

Big BC2 guy and PPCs and Gauss feel arcade-ish?
RPG7? And even worse, Tank cannons?

lol.  those COD type guys are kinda cute aren't they