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Offline ChronoStalker

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Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« on: May 15, 2010, 12:29:21 AM »
I find it quite annoying that the muzzle flare from the twin RAC5s on the Demolisher C obstructs the view severely when firing.
This is a problem that seems to be unique to this tank, and thereby gives it an unfair disadvantage.
It's especially bad when not using optics (zoom). I was in a brawl today against a Huit, but had no chance to keep my aim at the enemy simply because I couldn't see him through the fire.
Consistently hitting a target at speed with a RAC is hard enough when the tank is at speed as well. Not being able to see the target doesn't exactly make it any better.

I would propose either moving the viewport for the Demolisher to the top of the turret (which would also help you see better when moving through bushes and water in Marshes), or alternatively just reduce the intensity of the muzzle flare.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 12:38:26 AM »
I can shoot a .50cal machine gun from a moving helicopter at night, with the muzzle flash blooming out my NVG's, and still have the precision to shoot a man-sized target from 1/3mi away.  Your post is now invalid ;)

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2010, 12:47:32 AM »
One hit from a .50cal is often enough to kill a man. One shot from an RAC5 is not nearly enough to kill a mech. Your post is now invalid  ;)
Seriously: In order to kill anything armored with a Demolisher C, you need to fire at it for a long time. That requires constant precise aim for a long time... which requires seeing the target.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 02:07:02 AM »
personally, i think your better off with a different demolisher :P

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2010, 02:54:52 AM »
Until they buff the RACs, you're probably better off with a different Demolisher.
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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 04:23:15 AM »
personally, i think your better off with a different demolisher :P

Until they buff the RACs, you're probably better off with a different Demolisher.


I agree with your suggestion and theirs. As is the dual RAC5's can barely manage to take out a light mech with constant sustained fire and a reload.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2010, 07:52:11 AM »
i've never had a problem with RAC5's demolisher...ever. I can get good kills with it until i come across a heavy or a group of mediums.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 10:10:35 AM »
Wether or not I'm better off with a different demolisher is not really the topic here.
And even if it is the truth, it should not be made worse from having problems seeing the enemy when firing.

It's not that I haven't gotten kills with a Demolisher C, but, especially in the dark, it's exceedingly difficult to keep your aim at a fast moving target with the muzzle flare covering the target area.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2010, 04:23:55 PM »
I can shoot a .50cal machine gun from a moving helicopter at night, with the muzzle flash blooming out my NVG's, and still have the precision to shoot a man-sized target from 1/3mi away.  Your post is now invalid ;)

You heard it here first, he aims his .50cal machine gun with a mouse. Does the helicopter ever lag?


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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 06:31:42 PM »
Remember that the RAC2 Partisan, back when they had a "buff" rac2  could take out a Shadowcat in a few seconds, and take out a fully armored Awesome if it got it in an ambush.

SO asking for a more "buff" rac may not be exactly the best thing.
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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 07:14:55 PM »
Remember that the RAC2 Partisan, back when they had a "buff" rac2  could take out a Shadowcat in a few seconds, and take out a fully armored Awesome if it got it in an ambush.

SO asking for a more "buff" rac may not be exactly the best thing.

That the RAC2 has been overpowered before doesn't mean that the RAC5 can't underpowered now. But again, this is not the topic of this thread.
The concern here is having the sight blocked when firing the RAC5 weapons on the Demolisher C.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 08:20:20 PM »
The muzzle flash on the RAC/5 (and LB5-XAC) is too wide for sure. Maybe make it extend longer from the muzzle but about half the width.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 12:01:54 AM »
Its because of the view position, its in a terrible spot. If i make the flash any smaller it will looks very wierd. Personally i havent had any probs with the flash, kinda hard to miss a 3 story mech anyway...


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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2010, 12:48:47 AM »
Well, the Demolisher C is best suited for killing BAs, aircraft and light/medium mechs... and last time I checked, light/medium mechs were not very tall, and they are also relatively nimble.
But yes, this is my point: The view position should be moved; preferably to the top of the turret.

On a sidenote: It would be nice if there was any way to cool the RACs. They overheat way too quickly compared to how much damage they can deal in that time. The tank has plenty of coolant, but that doesn't seem to affect weapons... and engine cooling is very rarely needed on tanks.
Also: I'd like to have some kind of forced reloading. It's really annoying having something like 30 shots left which will quickly run out, and require reloads in critical situations.

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Re: Muzzle flare obstructs view on Demolisher C
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 01:22:23 AM »
The 'heat' on RAC's is probably to simulate their jamming chance. Pooring coolant on jammed weapons wouldn't help.