Has the Battle Arrmor become too powerfull?

[Rogue]

  I am interested to see what others think. Here's the issue I feel that a small group of Elite B.A. should be unlikely or incredibly lucky to win an encounter with bran new medium class Mech. Let alone be used as a tactic that can dominate a battle field as I have seen done on some servers, Otherwise why not field a army of cheap B.A. instead of expensive Mech?

I have heard several instances where a lone BA has taken out a atlas, and have even taken part in one such battle although I was assisted from Mech. Just recently I experienced a game where 3 BA were dominating the field taking out several Mech with little losses. I am agreed that a group of B.A. should be a reasonable tactic, however  the B.A. have become too powerful.

 As a suggestion of a way to modify the B.A. to bring them more in line with the original spirit of the game is to perhaps have the heavier weapons increasing the weight of the armor there by reducing the mobility, another option would be to connect the weapons to the jump jets, or perhaps a combination of both.

[Profane Arbiter]

BA should more easily kill an assault mech than a medium because the medium has more maneuverability and speed, allowing it to bring its weapons to bear on the BA's more easily.

The imbalance with BAs seems to be in the team points that they are worth versus the points they can reap. In my testing, a BA is worth maybe 5 points (it does vary based on a number of factors but we'll use a realistic round number) to a team. A medium mech might be worth 80 points by contrast. So even if the medium mech kills all 4 BA attacking him, he may have netted 20 points for his team. Unfortunately, for his trouble the BA will have  probably done at least twice that many points of damage to him with their microlaser and other weapons.

[Virt]

... I'll just go and put some instant popcorn in the microwave ...

/settles in

[=CJW=Solusphere]

You have to think of it in terms of players. The thing is, fighting in only battle armor has to be a feasable strategy, as much as anything else. When you are fighting two or three other players, no matter what they are using, it makes sense that you should lose, on average. If this were a strategy game where not every unit was controlled by a person, then it might make sense for them to be rebalanced as you're suggesting. But even then, there are many, many instances in canon where a small group of elementals was able to defeat a single mech, of any weight category. In fact, sometimes the heavier the mech, the easier it is to down it. Many large expensive units are built for dealing heavy damage to a large target, and as such are actually quite weak to BA. Just like how you should be sure that your team has anti-air support, you should be ready for BAs as well. They are actually very easily countered. Most partisans will rip a whole team of BA to shreds.

[HAARP]

Has the Battle Arrmor become too powerfull?

No.

[=KoS= Saber15]

No. They can do even more damage than before, but they're easier to kill. Or rather, they're equally hard to kill as before, but most mechs now have support weapons of some kind.

[Cujo]

No. They can do even more damage than before, but they're easier to kill. Or rather, they're equally hard to kill as before, but most mechs now have support weapons of some kind.

This.  When I see mechs get killed by BA it's usually because they're either a)not setup with any weapon to kill BA, and/or b)they just sit there and take it like a  champ

[Rally]

No way BA are too strong. Most mechs can fight them off decently and some mechs can even kill BA by the dozens. The 5 laser nova cat is one example of such mech, it is easily capable of defeating entire teams of BA. If I'm a BA and spot it, I steer clear of it. Yes, it's that dangerous.

However, BA players can donate pretty decent sums of money to other team members and set them up with bigger mechs. This advantage is something to watch for.

[(TLL)CapperDeluxe]

if you're dumb enough to be rollin out an Atlas without some support you probably deserve to be taken out by a BA (which of course probably takes it like 5 minutes to do)

[EvilMD]

Has the Battle Arrmor become too powerfull?

No.

[Zaro27]

BA is useful now. Get over it.

[ratbuddy]

Too powerful? Hell no. Just too annoying. Increase the APC spawn timer to 1 BA per 30 seconds or so, and double the reward cash for killing a BA, and it'll be fine.

[~SJ~KorbinWimmer]

Has the Battle Arrmor become too powerfull?

No.

I'm also all for giving BA more armor options (more survivability) for a cost (cbills, speed, etc.) 

[SquareSphere }12thVR{]

I echo what the others have said, bring the right tools to bear with some skill and they die like anything else.

Also think of it this way, those 3 BA's are probably working in concert with each other to deal max damage without killing each other.  Get 3 mechs working in concert at 1 target and they'd smash pretty much any single target.

[ratbuddy]

I echo what the others have said, bring the right tools to bear with some skill and they die like anything else.

Also think of it this way, those 3 BA's are probably working in concert with each other to deal max damage without killing each other.  Get 3 mechs working in concert at 1 target and they'd smash pretty much any single target.

Look at the risk/rewards though. A BA dying doesn't really give much points or cash to the team that killed it, and they can be spawned quickly and repeatedly in the middle of the field. OTOH, they receive the same rewards for killing stuff as the rest of us.

While I remember to whine about it, shut down APCs also need to show up on radar, especially if a scout with BAP/BHP is out there looking for them.