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Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« on: July 10, 2010, 04:49:14 AM »
This poll is to gauge the MWLL community's interest in an organized competitive Dueling Ladder or League play. There are several proposals currently under consideration to provide MWLL fans the opportunity to participate in a structured competitive multi-player environment and to facilitate long term player interest in the Mod. Among some of the ideas are leagues like Lance Command, matchmaking services like Forbiddenchaos and Seasonal Dueling Ladders like Legends Arena .You can read about some of the proposals in the thread located here: http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/forum/index.php/topic,9603.0.html  Reading the proposals in that thread will give you insight into what each Option in the Poll really means. Future additions to the MWLL Mod will enhance play in these diverse formats and allow expansion into other formats and championship, goal oriented play.

If you are interested in participating in a MWLL based League or Ladder please take the time to read the proposals, vote in the poll and express your ideas, opinions and critique of the proposed rules and formats.

You may vote for the top three options that interest you the most.

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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 04:58:21 AM »
I wont vote because I'm not in a Clan yet.    But I think that any of the above are great ideas.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 05:08:23 AM »
Ah but the goal of the Ladder is to provide for competitive play for both individual players (1v1) and units or groups ( 3v3, 5v5 and 10v10 team play). The Leagues would be more likely to require membership in a unit (clan).
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 05:27:19 AM »
Why oh why only three options? All of them are great!

Really though, I like the smaller matches, makes it more dependent on player skill and such. Dueling would be great, as would some small team stuff.

Planetary league sounds like the culmination of a lot of stuff, a combination of all types of play.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 09:20:34 AM »
Ah, thanks for clarifying.

In that case, I prefer big battles - at least 10 v 10.

I find larger battles are more strategic, and less toe-to-toe 'kill/be killed/respawn/repeat'.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 01:47:24 PM »
I went with competitive league and planetary league, as well as a 1v1 ladder.

The way I look at it, we can do pick up scrims for the unaffiliated of the community, to give them a taste of what organised play is all about. Also, the 1v1 ladder will promote individual player skill and give the individual something to do without needing to find anyone else to play with or having to deal with putting up with a unit.

I say leave the team based stuff to the units, as overall the organisation that comes part and package with these units will make the scheduling and playing of team based games a lot easier to schedule and manage, and give a clear distinction between the different league teams for all to see (eg "Oh look theres some CHH guys, i've heard theyre doing really well in the league this season, i'd love to get in on that, maybe I should talk to them")


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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 02:00:32 PM »
In that case, I prefer big battles - at least 10 v 10.

I find larger battles are more strategic, and less toe-to-toe 'kill/be killed/respawn/repeat'.
+1 My thoughts exactly.

1vs1 could work too, or a league play. Small battles don't make much sense in MWLL - it's combined arms game, not a chance for combined arms if you have 3vs3. You hardly even can split Mechs into specializations when such a small number is involved.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2010, 05:01:16 PM »
My goal is to participate in 3 hours of organized gameplay per week. Any of the above formats would suffice but the larger the better IMO.  I don't feel that 1v1 is really suited with MWLL as it's a team game and the assets were designed with that in mind. 1v1 really underlines the rps aspects of the game.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 08:33:05 AM »
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 08:36:38 AM »
Well don't forget about the other armed forces.  I'd play in an armored ladder too.  Tanks!  Actually,  I think we could come up with a good format for a tank/aero ladder tbh.  At first you're thinking, just go AA but if the other team goes with assault tanks you might be SOL if you just take partisans.  I'd advocate for a time limit to help move things along towards a decision.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 06:18:54 PM »
All the matches do have a time limit. 10 minutes for 1v1 per round, 20 minutes for small team match rounds and the normal match round length for our current 10v10 matches are 30 minutes. The big matches (10v10 or more) could easily be included into the ladder format if that is what the community wants.

As far as being open to the other vehicle types and aero, the Open Class would an an anything goes class. You could be in a light mech facing an Atlas or a Shiva or a Demolisher. Or you could go out in a heavy and find yourself battling some guy in a Puma prime that you cannot catch. And each of the three rounds during the match could change. That might make for an interesting chess match. A Champion in that class would show himself/herself to be truly versatile.

The reason for the 1v1 class is to allow people to demonstrate individual skill and also to allow the lone wolf types who do not want to be involved in a Clan a place to demonstrate their abilities and get some competitive play. The Team portion of the ladder allows small, medium and large units a structured competition arena and a chance at a title that they can proudly display.

The Legends Arena Ladder would supplement, not replace a true MWLL League concept. It is simpler, easier to get started and would provide venue for competition until such time as a true League is finalized. Even after that it would be a draw for the more casual MWLL gamer who simply does not have a lot of time to devote to league play or does not want the commitment that it takes to be part of a large gaming unit (clan).
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2010, 02:20:53 PM »
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 03:17:41 PM »
Well, so far it seems pretty clear that there is a strong desire for a true League or Planetary League that will support MWLL. I know for a fact that there are a couple of people working in that area. The poll also shows that the dueling idea has merit. I am a little surprised that no one is interested in the 3v3 duels because I thought that would be a good size for casual players that did not belong to a big unit but have a couple friends they like to game with. I guess the majority of those players opted for the 1v1 format. I will drop the 3v3 option from the Legends Arena concept and add the 10v10 option to support large organized units. The poll is set to run a few more days but I would be surprised at this point to see much of a variance from the results we have seen so far.

Work is moving ahead on the Legends Arena dueling ladder. That is a relatively simple concept to implement. The actual League play will take a little more time and a lot more hard work.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 03:40:59 PM »
I hope there will be an option for a true mercenary, my favorite role would be to fill gaps in organized teams, say they have a man absent or are not large enough by themselves to compete in a larger match, I would love to be able to play with everyone. It's not that I don't like organized matches, its that I don't fancy sticking with the same small group, would rather freelance and lend my mech to various teams. I fear that there is no place for me though, as it seems to me you either 1vs1 by yourself or play in larger battles with a unit. I hope there is an option to play with units without being affiliated with them.
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Re: Dueling Ladder and League Proposal and Survey.
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 05:44:17 PM »
Shameless bump, we've barely got half of the clanners voting here, nevermind the public players.

Get voting, otherwise it may never happen at all!!!


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