Crysis 2 system

[(TLL)CapperDeluxe]

something ain't right, this one shows the 5850 clearly beating out the GTX285

[donik]

that's crysis benchmarks, i was posting up far cry 2 benchmarks between both cards for consistency.

lemme see if i can find some crysis benchmarks for the 285...

found some on toms hardware, they're pretty darn close.. couldn't find one from PC persp. yet, i'll have to look later though..

[=KoS= Tripod]

Here are warhead benchmarks from overclockers club http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/palit_gtx460_sonic_platinum/7.htm

It's on gamer settings (high) instead of very high, but there is only a 2-5 FPS drop for me between the two settings.

It's also got full AA and AF, and that's what causes the most slowdowns for me, so at Tom's hardware I'm guessing it would get above 54 FPS with those settings (maybe 60, but i'm just guessing)

[donik]

looks like the 5850 and the 460 are pretty neck and neck with only a few frames per second difference on some of the resolutions on that benchmark.
Boils down to price and preference then, I guess..  Showing a 5850 on newegg for 279.99 lowest price or get a gtx460 for current newegg lowest price of 234.

I think one of the main reasons I've been leaning towards another nvidia card is the fact that I've already got the 9800 gt in my machine, and was thinking about running SLI or using the 9800 for physX.

[=KoS= Tripod]

Yeah, they're pretty much neck and neck in the warhead and Metro 2033 tests. However, on Bioshock 2, the Nvidia gets beaten by 20 FPS, but in Farcry 2 and Modern Warfare 2, it beats the 5850 by 20 FPS. . In Arkham Asylum, it beats the 5850 by up to 35 FPS.

Anyone else notice how 3D Mark always favours Radeons, even if they have worse/ equal performance in game? Why is that?

Also, the GTX 460 I'm planning to get is the Palit Sonic Platinum Overclocking edition 1GB (Standard clock is 675, this one's 800). If you can find a comparable card for the money or preformance please show me so I can compare (It's $260)

[donik]

honestly i've never payed much attention heh

do you think you have a grasp on what you might upgrade to?

[=KoS= Tripod]

honestly i've never payed much attention heh

do you think you have a grasp on what you might upgrade to?

Didn't I just say what I am planning to upgrade to?

Also, the GTX 460 I'm planning to get is the Palit Sonic Platinum Overclocking edition 1GB (Standard clock is 675, this one's 800). If you can find a comparable card for the money or preformance please show me so I can compare (It's $260)

[donik]

LOL I either missed that whole spot or just forgot about it as we started comparing the ATI/NVIDIA cards heh 

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-1373-AR&family=GeForce%20400%20Series%20Family&sw=

edit: actually that palit card looks pretty nice.  I don't know anything about palit though. hmm

[=KoS= Tripod]

I don't know anything about Palit either, I usually look at BFG or EVGA.

But this card is the most overclocked card I've seen (800), and the guys at OverClockers Club said they managed to keep it stable at 906 when GPU usage does not reach 100%

[donik]

looks pretty interesting, i'm going to have to keep an eye out for reviews on it and see how it holds up..

probably wont end up getting my card till mid-late august anyway.

edit:

Some quick searching revealed some rather sketchy reviews and unhappy customers of the palit card.. i think i'll stick with the evga oc'd card --

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=dd968847975664d9d43ef3e5bceb0d55&t=1532953

http://www.guru3d.com/news/palit-geforce-gtx-460-sonic-could-have-issues-/

[=KoS= Tripod]

Yeah, I notived it got 3 stars on Newegg.

Do the EVGA's come with heatsinks?

Can you over-clock them as much as the Palit with the heatsink? (I know that it was removed, causing the bad reviews)

How do you over-clock any way? My dad tried over-clocking my 9800 GT 1 GB (it was a low power or something version), but it didn't let us

[donik]

honestly i've never overclocked a card myself.  that's why I was leaning to a factory oc'd card to begin with

evga has heatsinks, just not the same style as the palit card as far as i know.

to overclock you can use utils such as rivatuner or evga precision..
you can also go to your nvidia control panel, to performance section and then to device settings.. click gpu icon and do it from there..

to test your card with it's overclocked settings, you can use a program such as furmark.. if you get artifacts or freezes, you need to clock it back down some.
common rule of thumb that i've been seeing is to only bump up speeds 5% at a time and then test.  sounds tedious, but i'm actually in the process of trying to do some OC'ing to my 9800 right now hehe.. i don't have the low power version, so i'm hoping i can get something figured out with it.

as far as the evga gtx 460 -- it's already oc'd to what, 763? i'm sure if you really wanted to you could get it to 800 but i havn't looked to see if anyones done anything to it yet.

[=KoS= Tripod]

Yeah, we tried rivatuner and the control panel, even tried to do it in the computer restart menu.

But it never let us do anything

[RenoBlade [GDL]]

if i upgrade my system, im thinking about the different system parts line up...

for example.
Nvidia mother board
amd / intel cpu ?

nvidia / ati grafic ?

i just heard nvidia board works better with intel cpu and works best with own nvidia grafics... but i always had amd cpu with nvidia grafic.

i play many games with low FPS. even mwll with medium/low and fps around 10-15

atm i got a low price board thats has less slots for cards.
AMD dualcore 2.2ghz
Vista 64bit
NVidia 9800 GT 1gb
SB Live 5.1 sound card
4GB RAM
1 IDE HDD 250gb
2 SLL HDD 500gb (or however that new cable is called)

[sleepysheep]

if i upgrade my system, im thinking about the different system parts line up...

for example.
Nvidia mother board
amd / intel cpu ?

nvidia / ati grafic ?

i just heard nvidia board works better with intel cpu and works best with own nvidia grafics... but i always had amd cpu with nvidia grafic.

i play many games with low FPS. even mwll with medium/low and fps around 10-15

atm i got a low price board thats has less slots for cards.
AMD dualcore 2.2ghz
Vista 64bit
NVidia 9800 GT 1gb
SB Live 5.1 sound card
4GB RAM
1 IDE HDD 250gb
2 SLL HDD 500gb (or however that new cable is called)

Overclocking your CPU to about 2.6ghz would allow you to play in large games with no juddering. Even if that's not an option, you will need a better graphic card to run the game any better. Compaired to the card you got, any DX11 card will probably kill you from shock in how much easier it runs games ^^